Amed Irizarry

Can Some One Show Me The Differents Between The Stock Honda Civic 2000 Coupe USDM Tail Lights. And The EDM Rear Tail Lights With The Fog Light In It. PLESE HELP

NOFX

Okay, I have a set of both of these ('96-'98 coupe though), so I'll try to explain.

The set I have are LHD taillights, so the rear foglight is behind the left side (it's always on the driver side).

USDM Coupe Taillights


EDM Coupe Taillights


There's not a lot of obvious differences between the two, as you can see from the pics.

The EDM lights don't have the reflectors in the upper corners (the red section) that the US lights have.

The EDM lights don't light in the inner section of the red part EXCEPT for the rear foglight when it's on. This rear foglight is VERY bright btw. It's like a brake light, except it directs the light out to the rear.

The rear foglight will need to be wired in btw. If you just put them on the car the inner red sections just plain won't turn on when you turn the lights on. IIRC we swapped the wiring around a bit to get them to light at all, but this causes the rear foglight to be on all the time. We've just not gotten around to fixing it on mine.

There should be a switch you'll need for the rear foglight too.

Turn signals, backup lights and brake lights all work the same on these lights except that the inner red section will not light with the brakes.

The inner red section doesn't even have a hole for the bulb.

NOFX

Since those inner red sections don't light up and the rear foglight needs to be wired in to work correctly, you run the risk of being pulled over and ticketed. Even if the rear foglight is wired in correctly, because of half the brake light/running lights not working, I'd suggest these not go onto daily driven cars.

To a lot of cops it could look like you have half your brake lights out. Explaining that they're from Europe and therefore not DOT compliant and therefore illegal for use on public roads in the US probably won't help much. lol

Amed Irizarry

Thanks For The Info Bro.

NOFX

No problem, ma'am.

94EG8

What you did there, I see it.

NOFX

I have no idea what you mean.

deschlong

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OP: I go into a fair bit of detail in my 5G Civic Rear Fog Light DIY retrofit (link in sig) about compliance with local North American laws regarding these. I suggest you give it a read, and read up on your local laws. Coles notes, though, is many provinces/states explicitly allow them, and many do not explicitly disallow them (meaning, not technically illegal). Some vehicles on North American roads DO have stock-mounted rear fog lights (typically Euro imports), so getting pulled over regarding that should not be as much an issue as getting pulled over for non-DOT lamp housings.

NOFX

If the foglight isn't wired correctly this could be a problem (they're not supposed to be used in good weather), as could the car looking like it has brake lights out all the time.

The main problem being that it looks like your taillights/brake lights are not working.

deschlong

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^ Right. To underscore to the OP:

REAR FOG LIGHTS ARE TO BE USED ONLY IN ADVERSE ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS

Typically, this is when visibility drops to less than 150m (~500ft), or approximately the distance of an average city block.

NOFX

So far I've only driven my car with these lights (with the foglight on all the time since I don't yet have a switch wired in) for only about 20 miles or so total, almost all within a mile or so of my home. I've had two people point out to me that my lights aren't on. The latest was Monday night when a coworker pointed it out.

Amed Irizarry

I Should Not Have Any Promblems With The Fog Light. Lets See If I Can Find Any Pic's Of THe Back Part. I Have Had No Luck So Far.

Amed Irizarry

I Know My Thread Is A Year Old. But Just Wanted To Let You Guys Know That I Got The Rear RHD Fog Light.

deschlong

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Wow. After all that, you installed it on the wrong side? It should be on the driver's side.... unless your car is RHD. But I don't think those are common in Conneticut.

Amed Irizarry

I Knew I Was Getting The One For The Right Side. The RHD Side Is More Rare Then The LHD One. So I Wanted To Be Different So I Got This One. I Can Always Get The Left One When Ever I Want.

DAP97SI

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Left and right are the same, it is just a bulb and the rewiring. I had mine installed on my Hatch in Belgium from a Honda Dealership.

NOFX

This might be different, but I think it might technically be illegal to have it on that side only (you'll notice in the US - a LHD country - that cars customarily have the mist light on the driver side or both sides).

My assembly is noticeably different in the side with the rear mist light btw. There is a lens traced out in it where it is not on the right side. Retrofitting is likely possible, but the assembly is different than the US assembly/the non mist side.