Rev-Olution

Took my car into the local shop last week to have them put in a d15b motor. Now this is just for the motor, not the transmission..and it was *supposed* to cost $600 installed. I thought that sounded about right, so i left them with the car, and came to pick it up later. They gave me a run down of what all they did, and the grand total....$1,700 installed for a d15b to be installed..Now remember this is basically a long block, with the ECU and dizzy...

..I told them this is not what we agreed on, and that i did not have the finances to pay for it...the owner said we could work out a payment plan or something...but still...i dont want to pay 1,700 ******* dollars for a longblock d15...

Revolution2zz

wow, you got owned. Did you sign any papers, do you have the original written quote or anything?

ATS*Mark

if another person herd that verbal agreement then you have somthing . or if you have a writtin work order . otherwise you got ******* reamed

AzntaggeR

omg that is a rip off. best of luck to ya.

Kid Turbo

Hey, they did give it to you . You could have almost had a B16 swap for that! Sorry bro.

Mike_C

If you weren't made aware of the charges you're not responsible to pay them.

AzntaggeR

also i think the law in the state of washington states that if you bring your car into a shop they can not do additional work to your car without your consent. the same law may apply there too, or every other state for that matter. that is a lot just to swap a long block and ecu.

Rev-Olution

yah, the problem is is that it was only a verbal agreement..we got nothing in writing...so i dont think there is much i can do..However the owner was willing to work out a payment schedual with me, and i guess i will just have to work to pay it off..Sucks, but i guess im kind of stuck doing it that way..

I talked to our local BBB and Attorney General, and I filed a complaint with them, and they will help Mediate the case, but they both said, since there is nothing in writing that i will probably end up paying for the motor, and then taking them to small claims later...so we will see what happens...

**NOTE**-To everyone...make sure to get everything in writing, otherwise you have nothing to back up your side of the case.

swatdog

tell us the name of the shop

Rev-Olution

it doesnt really matter, it is the only real import shop here in Idaho,

Idaho Speed Center...

this is really the only problem ive heard from them so far..so must have just been a lax in communication...

TorganFM.

A verbal contract is still a binding contract. Take them to court.

the-one1

A verbal contract is only binding IF another person witnessed it or was recorded, which neither happened.
I guess their off my list of shops to go to.

B3AS

i would pay the original $600 and tell them to go **** themselves. they are really trying to rape you. i would tell them that u got a couple quotes from other garages and they were only charging $600 or $700. tell them if they want to take you to court go ahead. you might be able to bluff your way out of it.

EliteCivicX

wow defiently owned.

93Civac

What all did they do to make it cost so much more?

Deemeetree

Why didn't you get a couple of local H-T'ers and swap it yourself while learning something? Could've costed you a few cases of beer and a few pizzas. Come on now.

pburke23

seriously...that **** better be a gold plated d15 version or some ****...damn...

B18C5-EH2

I will almost guarantee that the shop will say this:

$600.00 was the price for the engine NOT including installation.

I manage a shop here in GA, and I've got to tell you that we'd NEVER install an engine for just $600.00 - not even if you brought us the engine. Our labor rate for the swap is double the price that they quoted you for parts and labor. $71.00 an hour, and the labor rate book bills that swap at roughly 20 hours, which is what shops go by. 20 hours times $71.00 = $1,420.00 or so. That's labor only.

For those of you saying $1,700.00 is a rip-off, it's honestly not. Maybe from a shadetree mechanic it is, but it sounds fair to me. $600.00 for the engine and $1,100.00 for the labor, fluids, etc. is fair.

If you had shopped around at other established shops you'd have understood that $600.00 for the entire job, parts and labor, is ludicrous.

Then again if the shop told you it would only be $600.00 INSTALLED then that's ******* whack. Either you misheard them or they just blatantly decived you.

What is their hourly labor rate? How many hours did they quote for the swap?

ATS*Mark

ya scan the work order or somthing . let us know all the details as to whats going on . but bottom line if you were told one thing and thats not what happened , you got ripped off . but 1100 for a newer motor installed and for you to drive home with it is not that much . of course you can find a cheaper motor online , and of course you can pay some pot smoking wanna be honda know it all to throw it in for a 24 pack of bud . but if this was a legit shop and did a good job . then i wouldnt trip.

Rev-Olution

well just got back from the shop, decided to just make some payments on it..owner was willing to work with me on it, so that was nice...

Well here is the run-down of what all they did for the swap...
D15b motor-500
freight-91.80
gasket-12.95
NGK 5584 sparks-3.50
spark wires-70.99
Drain Plug-4.69
ECU-150
Dizzy-298.99
labor total-560
-Subtotal-1,703.42
-tax-63.10
------------------------------total-1,766.52

Rev-Olution

btw..i also noticed the threw in a *free* generic short ram

snatch13

thats not that bad... i feel for you cuz you are stuck paying it but like tom said you should have shopped around a little more to see what other places would have charged and you probably would have gotten an idea that it was more

Rev-Olution

i would have shopped around, but this is really the only shop that i would trust out here...

piscorpio

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I thought so too. Thats how, and why mechanics make money, for doing the labor. You might be able to get a B16 swap for about 1700, but there is no way in hell you are going to get it for 1700 including installation.

EDIT - If anything seems a bit steep, it could be the price of that d15, seems like you could get a long block for much less by shopping the classifieds.

It sucks there was a misunderstanding, or unclear communication. Anyway, in the end, is the engine working well? That is whats important isn't it?

Rev-Olution

yah engine works great, pulls nicely, eventhough it is still connected to my CX tranny....