Did a compression test on my friends civic si hatch? Now it wont start.
11-16-2005, 12:03 AM
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Did a compression test on my friends civic si hatch? Now it wont start.
The car is a 93 Civic Si Hatch with a d16z6 motor. I did a compression test, I took the plugs out and I took the spark plug wires off completely from the engine and the distrubutor. We cranked it and got some compression numbers. But I did not unplug the connector that goes to the distrubutor. Could that damage the distrubutor? Car wont spark.
11-16-2005, 12:05 AM
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Re: Did a compression test on my friends civic si hatch? Now it wont start. (fc3s_turbo)
I did my 91 Mazda Miata with 1.8 swap and my other 2 friends with 89 240sx. All of them had no problems.
11-16-2005, 01:14 AM
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i never unplug my dizzy. always works right afterwards. i've done compression test on many different types of cars. all i did was took out spark plug wires from hole leave it aside(never touch nothing near the dizzy) remove spark plugs, remove ecu fuse, crank 7 times per cylinder, put everything back, always works.
11-16-2005, 02:59 AM
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i wont if he floored it making sure that it went limp mode and would not flood shutting off injectors like i hear other people saying to do
11-16-2005, 09:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lv6l »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i never unplug my dizzy. always works right afterwards. i've done compression test on many different types of cars. all i did was took out spark plug wires from hole leave it aside(never touch nothing near the dizzy) remove spark plugs, remove ecu fuse, crank 7 times per cylinder, put everything back, always works.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then you have done several compression tests the WRONG way and have gotten lucky everytime. Replace the coil in the dist, then come back and tell us if it starts. You either want to learn or you want to argue. Pick one.
Then you have done several compression tests the WRONG way and have gotten lucky everytime. Replace the coil in the dist, then come back and tell us if it starts. You either want to learn or you want to argue. Pick one.
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11-16-2005, 09:30 AM
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Re: Did a compression test on my friends civic si hatch? Now it wont start. (fc3s_turbo)
I did put all the plugs back together on the right spot. We had another hatch with same motor to look at just in case. The distrubutor isnt sparking no more. So I do need to unplug the electrical. Both 240sx were ok, but there is a coil plug that looks like a plug wire, but it was disconnected. My Miata has no distrubutor but nothing happened to my coil pack.
11-16-2005, 09:39 AM
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Re: Did a compression test on my friends civic si hatch? Now it wont start. (fc3s_turbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fc3s_turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did put all the plugs back together on the right spot. We had another hatch with same motor to look at just in case. The distrubutor isnt sparking no more. So I do need to unplug the electrical. Both 240sx were ok, but there is a coil plug that looks like a plug wire, but it was disconnected. My Miata has no distrubutor but nothing happened to my coil pack.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you will stop and listen for 10 seconds... REPLACE THE COIL.
If you will stop and listen for 10 seconds... REPLACE THE COIL.
11-16-2005, 09:44 AM
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Re: Did a compression test on my friends civic si hatch? Now it wont start. (Hybrid93Eg)
Well my friend has a lifetime warranty on distrubutors at the parts store, so its probably gonna work then.
11-16-2005, 09:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I always pull the ecu fuse. No spark, no Fuel, no problems.
But anyway my guess for the original poster, you probably have the dist. 180. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you cannot put a dist in 180 out. I hope you meant that he has the firing order wrong..
But anyway my guess for the original poster, you probably have the dist. 180. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you cannot put a dist in 180 out. I hope you meant that he has the firing order wrong..
11-16-2005, 10:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you cannot put a dist in 180 out. I hope you meant that he has the firing order wrong.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, really you can. It's not easy but you can definitely do it. I don't know how many times I've been called to figure out what's wrong with a car and that's what it was. Hell, even did it once myself at 3 am before realizing that it was fully seated against the head....
you cannot put a dist in 180 out. I hope you meant that he has the firing order wrong.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, really you can. It's not easy but you can definitely do it. I don't know how many times I've been called to figure out what's wrong with a car and that's what it was. Hell, even did it once myself at 3 am before realizing that it was fully seated against the head....
11-16-2005, 10:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave421 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah, really you can. It's not easy but you can definitely do it. I don't know how many times I've been called to figure out what's wrong with a car and that's what it was. Hell, even did it once myself at 3 am before realizing that it was fully seated against the head....</TD></TR></TABLE>
If it doesn't fully seat then its not in, period. Therefore, as I said. You cannot put the dist "in" 180 degress out. If you got it "in" 180 out, then you shouldn't be touching a car.
Yeah, really you can. It's not easy but you can definitely do it. I don't know how many times I've been called to figure out what's wrong with a car and that's what it was. Hell, even did it once myself at 3 am before realizing that it was fully seated against the head....</TD></TR></TABLE>
If it doesn't fully seat then its not in, period. Therefore, as I said. You cannot put the dist "in" 180 degress out. If you got it "in" 180 out, then you shouldn't be touching a car.
11-16-2005, 11:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If it doesn't fully seat then its not in, period. Therefore, as I said. You cannot put the dist "in" 180 degress out. If you got it "in" 180 out, then you shouldn't be touching a car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Seriously, did you read what I said? I have taken several distributors OFF / OUT that were ON / IN 180 out. And when you work on a car for 27 hours, come and talk to me about a small mistake at 3 am. Have you never seen an older distributor with looser bearings? It's not really that hard obviously by the number I've seen installed that way.
If it doesn't fully seat then its not in, period. Therefore, as I said. You cannot put the dist "in" 180 degress out. If you got it "in" 180 out, then you shouldn't be touching a car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Seriously, did you read what I said? I have taken several distributors OFF / OUT that were ON / IN 180 out. And when you work on a car for 27 hours, come and talk to me about a small mistake at 3 am. Have you never seen an older distributor with looser bearings? It's not really that hard obviously by the number I've seen installed that way.
11-16-2005, 12:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave421 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Seriously, did you read what I said? I have taken several distributors OFF / OUT that were ON / IN 180 out. And when you work on a car for 27 hours, come and talk to me about a small mistake at 3 am. Have you never seen an older distributor with looser bearings? It's not really that hard obviously by the number I've seen installed that way. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The key is offset about 1/8th of an inch. I am sure you are aware of this. if you have something with bearings that have 1/8th of an inch of play, then you have a piece of crap. It might not be hard for those lacking brain cells, but for someone with even the slightest of clues, its more then obvious how the distributor should be put in. I'm done with this.
Seriously, did you read what I said? I have taken several distributors OFF / OUT that were ON / IN 180 out. And when you work on a car for 27 hours, come and talk to me about a small mistake at 3 am. Have you never seen an older distributor with looser bearings? It's not really that hard obviously by the number I've seen installed that way. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The key is offset about 1/8th of an inch. I am sure you are aware of this. if you have something with bearings that have 1/8th of an inch of play, then you have a piece of crap. It might not be hard for those lacking brain cells, but for someone with even the slightest of clues, its more then obvious how the distributor should be put in. I'm done with this.
11-16-2005, 12:06 PM
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Re: Did a compression test on my friends civic si hatch? Now it wont start. (fc3s_turbo)
your supposed to disable igntion and fuel pump before doing so
11-16-2005, 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lv6l »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so proper way of testing is you always have to remove the electrical harness plug that is hook on the distributor?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes. I always unhook the injector clips and unplug the dist. The injected fuel will not only cause for hard starting when you are done with the comp test, but COULD alter the readings slightly. Its also commonly overlooked that a compression test should be done with the gas pedal fully depressed (WOT).
Yes. I always unhook the injector clips and unplug the dist. The injected fuel will not only cause for hard starting when you are done with the comp test, but COULD alter the readings slightly. Its also commonly overlooked that a compression test should be done with the gas pedal fully depressed (WOT).
11-16-2005, 03:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The key is offset about 1/8th of an inch. I am sure you are aware of this. if you have something with bearings that have 1/8th of an inch of play, then you have a piece of crap. It might not be hard for those lacking brain cells, but for someone with even the slightest of clues, its more then obvious how the distributor should be put in. I'm done with this.</TD></TR></TABLE>
agreed, that's why I usually fix them. Again, if you want to tell me you can work on a car for 27 hours with no mistakes, then I'll bow down, otherwise, shut up about it. I posted for others information because there have been various threads that I've found on here where people had issues with it being 180 out and not going on or being 180 out and not running. Saying that it can't go on 180 out was incorrect and I corrected it. Now perhaps some people will know to check accurately before putting it on or running into problems
The key is offset about 1/8th of an inch. I am sure you are aware of this. if you have something with bearings that have 1/8th of an inch of play, then you have a piece of crap. It might not be hard for those lacking brain cells, but for someone with even the slightest of clues, its more then obvious how the distributor should be put in. I'm done with this.</TD></TR></TABLE>
agreed, that's why I usually fix them. Again, if you want to tell me you can work on a car for 27 hours with no mistakes, then I'll bow down, otherwise, shut up about it. I posted for others information because there have been various threads that I've found on here where people had issues with it being 180 out and not going on or being 180 out and not running. Saying that it can't go on 180 out was incorrect and I corrected it. Now perhaps some people will know to check accurately before putting it on or running into problems
11-16-2005, 04:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave421 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
agreed, that's why I usually fix them. Again, if you want to tell me you can work on a car for 27 hours with no mistakes, then I'll bow down, otherwise, shut up about it. I posted for others information because there have been various threads that I've found on here where people had issues with it being 180 out and not going on or being 180 out and not running. Saying that it can't go on 180 out was incorrect and I corrected it. Now perhaps some people will know to check accurately before putting it on or running into problems</TD></TR></TABLE>
I can make anything fit on anything with enough force. This still doesn't make it "correct"... I guess it does in your world though.
agreed, that's why I usually fix them. Again, if you want to tell me you can work on a car for 27 hours with no mistakes, then I'll bow down, otherwise, shut up about it. I posted for others information because there have been various threads that I've found on here where people had issues with it being 180 out and not going on or being 180 out and not running. Saying that it can't go on 180 out was incorrect and I corrected it. Now perhaps some people will know to check accurately before putting it on or running into problems</TD></TR></TABLE>
I can make anything fit on anything with enough force. This still doesn't make it "correct"... I guess it does in your world though.
11-16-2005, 07:24 PM
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Are you that dense? Where did I say it was correct to put it on 180 out? I said that the info that you CAN'T put it on 180 out was incorrect. Reading owns you fool.
11-16-2005, 08:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave421 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you that dense? Where did I say it was correct to put it on 180 out? I said that the info that you CAN'T put it on 180 out was incorrect. Reading owns you fool.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Comprehension is just as important as reading. I'm sorry you can't comprehend, understand, interpret, whatever you want to say, what I typed. "forcing" something into place does not mean that one can now say it "fits".. You get it?
Comprehension is just as important as reading. I'm sorry you can't comprehend, understand, interpret, whatever you want to say, what I typed. "forcing" something into place does not mean that one can now say it "fits".. You get it?