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Old 10-12-2011, 12:55 PM
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Default Del Sol - Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

Right now my car is lowered on lowering springs. I plan on installing coilovers and making it lower. BUT, currently the fenders and quarter panels are sitting only about an inch and a half higher than the tires.

How can I make the car lower without the tires scraping the wheel wells every time I go over a bump?
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Smaller wheels. Problem solved.

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what size of wheels are u running? i running a 205/50/15 right now and im lowering mine with skunk 2 springs and struts or some other adjustable shocks.
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

smaller wheels, take out the lil plastic liner thing inside your wheelwell gives you a lil bit more room too
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

also you have plenty of room to go lower from the looks of your picture, you cant even see the tops of my tires my cars so low, if you want to avoid the tires rubbing the wheel well then use racing springs and good coilovers it'll make it stiffer so you arent bottoming out your spings everytime you hit a bump
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go wit skunk2 springss and itll be lowerr or smaller rimss
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

Lower the car to your liking, then adjust to where the tires dont rub. Its that simple.
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

I'm on Progress coilovers and with less than 1 finger gap all around. No rub unless I hit a big bump.

Your front/rear naturally cambers in as you lower it. I'm on 195/50/15 tires. Bent my fender tabs up and so far so good.
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

Originally Posted by DelsolVted
what size of wheels are u running? i running a 205/50/15 right now and im lowering mine with skunk 2 springs and struts or some other adjustable shocks.
Im running 195/50-15. So my tires are 10mm narrower than yours. Do you have any pics of your sol?
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

Originally Posted by Go_Race_Your_Self
Smaller wheels. Problem solved.

Kev
My wheels are already small lol. They are 15s. I dont want to go any smaller.
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

when u lower it it will camber in, and it should rub im runnin 7.5 inch wides on a 99 and i can drop it into the fender. but it eats tires so i used the old washer tirck to get rid of the camber and had to roll the little lip inside the fenders. i will probably end up just cutting it out when i start the body work
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You don't need a camber kit. Make sure that when you lower it you get an alignment. Toe eats tires, not camber.

What is your budget for lowering the car?
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i do have pics i will but not lowered yet doin it over xmas break.
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have the fenders rolled
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

Originally Posted by EgCoupe1993
have the fenders rolled
Have any idea as to how much does that cost?
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

Originally Posted by grumblemarc
You don't need a camber kit. Make sure that when you lower it you get an alignment. Toe eats tires, not camber.

What is your budget for lowering the car?
I have a lifetime alignment with firestone and I do get it aligned every 3 or 4 months or so. According to them my aftermarket camber kit is out of adjustment so it cant be perfectly aligned.

Budget is $200-$300.
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Can't do much with that budget. Maybe a set of Eibach springs.
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

What it really depends upon is wheel-offset. If your not at like a +30 or less offset, then you will be fine. This number should be molded into the wheel somewhere (sometimes inside on the spokes or near the lip). My 94 hatch is running a 205/40-16 Falken Azenis-615 with a 16x7 +40 wheel and I never have issues with rubbing. I'm lowered ~2.75" so there is only a 1-finger gap between the tire and the fender if held parallel to the ground.

The reason there is no rubbing is that the short upper control arms cause the wheel to camber inwards (negative) as the wheel moves up into the wheel well. If your not rubbing right now when you hit bumps or make hard turns, your not going to rub if you lower more on the same wheels.

Just remember to reset your suspension bushings after you lower it more (so they don't twist more) and get a 4-wheel alignment. Changing ride height changes your toe-settings. This will eat the inside edges of the tires when combined with extra camber. The added negative camber will be fine, so don't worry about buying a camber kit (it will be out of spec). I'm at -2.5* front and -1.5* rear and have no problems making my tires live normal lives. Just rotate them when you do oil changes.
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

Originally Posted by m.glisson003
Have any idea as to how much does that cost?
i bought a fender roller for $250? you can usually rent one for $100 for the weekend
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

Originally Posted by grumblemarc
Can't do much with that budget. Maybe a set of Eibach springs.
What do I need to spend to achieve my goal?
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

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i bought a fender roller for $250? you can usually rent one for $100 for the weekend
Thanks. I'll look into it. Couldnt I just buy aftermarket fenders that are flared out a little too?
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Default Re: Del Sol - Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

I think you're jumping the gun. You should re-read post #18. PLUS your budget doesn't really allow for rolling fenders AND lowering the car unless you plan on getting $50 Ebay coilovers.
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Default Re: Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

Originally Posted by m.glisson003
Thanks. I'll look into it. Couldnt I just buy aftermarket fenders that are flared out a little too?
fenders alone, done right, will put you behind budget if you only plan on spending $200-300. If you're planning to keep the wheels you have now, based on a quick glance, it doesnt even look like you'll need to roll your fenders with those offsets unless you plan on tucking tire.

To do it right, you'll need new shocks for the type of drop you're looking to achieve, which for a set on all four corners will also put you past budget. The cheapest coilovers (not sleeves) will run you at least $500 for some F/F or Blox. As mentioned above, you'll need to get an alignment to get your toe corrected (camber doesn't really matter, some cars even come set with negative camber from the factor - i.e. BMW) so budget an extra $60-100 depending on who you know/where you get it done. I'd be surprised to see Firestone willing to honor that lifetime alignment if you bring a car back that got slammed and they have issue getting it onto the rack without using blocks.

My personal opinion is that it sounds like you should just save your money for a few more months and get it done properly without trying to cut corners. You might be able to find a used set of springs/shocks here on the forums or craigslist, but even that will run your budget up to $200-300 without leaving room for alignment.
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What it really depends upon is wheel-offset. If your not at like a +30 or less offset, then you will be fine. This number should be molded into the wheel somewhere (sometimes inside on the spokes or near the lip). My 94 hatch is running a 205/40-16 Falken Azenis-615 with a 16x7 +40 wheel and I never have issues with rubbing. I'm lowered ~2.75" so there is only a 1-finger gap between the tire and the fender if held parallel to the ground.

The reason there is no rubbing is that the short upper control arms cause the wheel to camber inwards (negative) as the wheel moves up into the wheel well. If your not rubbing right now when you hit bumps or make hard turns, your not going to rub if you lower more on the same wheels.

Just remember to reset your suspension bushings after you lower it more (so they don't twist more) and get a 4-wheel alignment. Changing ride height changes your toe-settings. This will eat the inside edges of the tires when combined with extra camber. The added negative camber will be fine, so don't worry about buying a camber kit (it will be out of spec). I'm at -2.5* front and -1.5* rear and have no problems making my tires live normal lives. Just rotate them when you do oil changes.
My wheels are 40mm offset. In a few days I will be lowering the car maybe another inch and getting another alignment done. I'll let you know if it rubs. I do have quite a bit of space I can work with now, I just didnt want to deal with it rubbing if I lowered it. Guess I'll find out.

Im considering getting the same wheels but one size bigger with 195/40-16 for tires. I think that might look better. Thinner tire side walls and a little bit bigger wheel. 205/40-16 tires would be alright too. Not that much thicker sidewall, not enough to notice anyways.
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Default Re: Del Sol - Want to make ride lower but dont want tires to hit fenders..

205-45/16 is the proper size. You won't rub with that as far as I can see.


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