m_saavedra

I'm going to start a build this year and I can't decide whether to throw a B16b or B18c into a 95 hatchback. Opinions? This is just going to be a weekend car.

24TEN

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One has more torque/power, one has a better R/S ratio, one cost more than the other. When you say weekend car, do you mean literal weekend car to just run around town and do your business? Or do you mean weekend car that you're going to abuse because you have another car you drive during the week?

For what it's worth, B18C is my vote (any version).

m_saavedra

I mean weekend car as in a play car on the weekends. I want to build a car to last me which is why I'm planning to do everything right the first time. I have a DD. (1999 CX hatch with 35k original miles) So you can say the eg will be abused haha

I meant the Type R B18C

B_Swapped93

why not a b20V ? cheaper and more powerful(if you have aftermarket pistons) then either of those. Bore it out to 85mm throw some 12:5:1 C/R pistons & tuner 3 cams in basic bolt ons and a s300 you can push 240whp easy !. the CTR and itr engine's are overrated imo unless building an engine is out of your knowing. When I fist got my dc2 I wanted a type r engine then I realized I could have lots more power for less and learn a lot in the process. currently running an 85x89mm 12:5:1 w/pro1 cams ultra series mani, basic bolt ons and tuned on Hondata pushed 248whp/150tq

m_saavedra

Truth be told this would be my first build so engines are kind of a foreign language to me still. I was hoping to do a simple swap that packs a punch.

mikecivic

depends on how much you wanna spend will determind which motor would be best for you

m_saavedra

Since I'm in no rush to complete this build, price wise, sky is the limit. I'd rather have something that I'm going to enjoy for a long time then a something that's going to get a new swap every 2 years

JoeBlue

B20z or JDM B20b no question about it. You will be happy with that swap. The VTEC engines are still good and have a smoother power band from what I have experienced comparing stock versus stock. However, the B20's though are an absolute blast to drive. After it's built there are definitely no questions about the B20 being more fun. Not having to wind out to some ridiculous high RPM all the time to make power is a great thing IMO.

mikecivic

im doing a turbo b16 swap in my eg here is an article on a 500 hp b16 http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...ck_block_b16a/

m_saavedra

That sounds very promising man. Sounds like you're definitely down for the B20's but I wanted to stay on the VTEC boat. I'd get lost halfway through a B20 build.

m_saavedra

That seems cool man. I'll definitely read this

frost_white_ej1

b18c gsr all the way best bang for the buck in stock platform no doubt b16 b18b b20 can't compare.

m_saavedra

That's been an option for sure too man

mikecivic

you can always do a poor mans type r

doctorake

Gsr.

m_saavedra

Explain please?

B_Swapped93

If you just want to drop something in with no hassle a b18c1(gsr) is an awesome engine I loved mine for the year I had it. But as far as power to cost ratio once you start "building" an engine a properly built B20V is the best route they sell for as low a 300$ for a good short block vs an ls ppl usually want more vtec head 200$ or so and the rest is up to you.

NotARaCist

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This question gets asked once a week. Start off by reading the FAQ's sticky at the top of this subforum. Once you've done that, start researching motors, what's available, and what it takes to swap different kinds of motors. Figure out how much power you want, then figure out how you want to get that power, then figure out what motors will allow you to do it. Buy the most powerful engine you can afford to swap into your car. It's all been done, and there are shelf kits for almost every swap out there. Any Honda motor can be shoehorned to fit in your engine bay.

Then just ignore everyone's advice and get whatever the "hip" motor is right now, just like everyone else does when they ask this question.

EsotericImage

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^^

m_saavedra

Thanks everyone! Like I said I just needed some input but it seems like a good start is the gsr. I'll branch off from that after I learn more after this swap. Didn't mean to be that guy who asked the same question about X engine for the 300th time. My bad for that

goldsy

B20v in the plans for my summer project in my 97 hatch.

m_saavedra

Sounds cool and good luck man! That definitely seems to be the winner for a project engine.

goldsy

Thanks. You just can't beat the B20 compression wise as far as the B series engines go and you can pretty much pick up a B20 block for pocket change.. K-swaps are just too damn expensive. I've done B16 and B18 swaps in the past and they are a lot of fun but it's take a motor out, put a motor in. I want to build something myself this time. I've just been starting to look around for B20 blocks and start the build in the basement in the next month or so and have it ready to go for when I find a head.

I'll stop hijacking your thread now.

B_Swapped93

I think you mean the bore, compression wise they're rather low in relative to a ls or vtec engines. They have a 89mm crank(so does the ls) along with an 84mm bore while the standard vtec engines(except the b16b) have an 87x81mm. they only way you can get 85mm on a vtec engine is if you sleeve, while a b20 you can overbore 1mm and have an 85x89 just got to watch out for the notoriously thin b20 sleeves especially cyl #3 lol. no replacement for displacement when going N/A that's while I chose to go 85mm.

m_saavedra

No no! This is great info. I just needed a starting point engine. I'll start reading into B20's more