UnhuZ

Hi guys,

i've done a search and found some subframe topics and collected some info...but there is a little more few of things i loved to know..

i want to convert my EG9 to fully ITR suspension...

I want to make this as stock as i can, as with much Honda parts as i can, so here are some questions:

1 - Are the EG Subframe and DC2-R one compatible between each other?? as in, if i have the 2 of them brand new in front of me, are they exactly matched on the contact with the chassi?? is the DC2-R subframe all i need in my EG or there is another little thinguy that i need??

2 - are all DC2-R subframes equal??? i'm talking, obviously of the JDM, European (my zone) and USDM...

3 - having a DC2-R subframe, ITR LCAs, is the 23mm JDM rear swaybar (with D-Brackets and endlinks) a bolton?? or there is anything else to look for in my EG?

4 - about the front swaybar, can i just bolt on the JDM DC2-R or EK9 (complete with D-Brackets and endlinks), or do i need LCAs also?

i hope this isn't a drag for you all, but i want that my EG look as stock as i can.

Thank you all,
Nuno

silverEG6

i believe they should fit but some one correct me if im worng... the integra and the civic share just about everythig.. including the supsension ... so there forth it mayh fit you car.

dantastic

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4 - about the front swaybar, can i just bolt on the JDM DC2-R or EK9 (complete with D-Brackets and endlinks), or do i need LCAs also?

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if your EG9 has a factory front bar, I believe the front dc2-r bar will bolt in with the correct bushings and endlinks. if you don't have a factory front bar, you'll need any dc2 (r or non-r) front LCA's with swaybar endlink mounts. the oem civic front subframe will already have holes for the D brackets.

UnhuZ

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if your EG9 has a factory front bar, I believe the front dc2-r bar will bolt in with the correct bushings and endlinks. if you don't have a factory front bar, you'll need any dc2 (r or non-r) front LCA's with swaybar endlink mounts. the oem civic front subframe will already have holes for the D brackets.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeahh...my EG9 has a front bar from the factory.. it's the ferio version of the EG6 SiR2... with B16A2 and all....only sold in Europe i think...

creez

it all fits, use the DC2R rear LCA's if you dont have the holes for the swaybar. The only thing that will not fit is the 'tiebar' that the ITR has. It uses 2 mountpoints on the rear subframe wich a EG does not have.

clint g

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wishing i did this to my eg

UnhuZ

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by creez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it all fits, use the DC2R rear LCA's if you dont have the holes for the swaybar. The only thing that will not fit is the 'tiebar' that the ITR has. It uses 2 mountpoints on the rear subframe wich a EG does not have.</TD></TR></TABLE>

But if i install the DC2R Subframe, then i'll have those tiebar mounting holes, right??
my main question here is if i can install the DC2R complete subframe on my EG

suspendedHatch

Installing the type R rear subframe to an EG requires cutting and welding.

I also wanted everything to look stock, so I just flat blacked all my aftermarket parts. It's a lot of trouble and $$$ to convert to Integra type R parts when you can get aftermarket parts instead. BTW, the aftermarket parts are better than the type R parts. For instance, my springs and rear swaybar are thicker than their Integra R counterparts.

Those big *** brakes are not going to look stock. Besides, you're going to need big rims for them to fit.

UnhuZ

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i know....it's my Honda Dealer that will do that job. but it's possible, right??

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Not an option...

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well, i know it costs money, but i'm not in a hurry...i prefer to wait and do it perfectly.
About the springs, the stock DC2 coils will only be there until i got a top coilovers...can't send all at once
About the thicker swaybar... i think 23mm is big enough....

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What brakes??? how do you know i'm expecting a big brake kit??
i'm waiting for a wilwood 12.2" 4pot kit... and it will fit the 15" (stocksize) rims i'll get...the TeamDynamics

thanks, but let's keep these going on so we all learn a little bit more

MassScene

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But if i install the DC2R Subframe, then i'll have those tiebar mounting holes, right??
my main question here is if i can install the DC2R complete subframe on my EG

</TD></TR></TABLE>My vx already had those.

suspendedHatch

It wouldn't make sense to swap on the type R control arms without the spindles.

navin

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uhh, why not...

I use ITR rear LCA's for my suspension, but GSR spindles/rear brakes... it works..

Only reason I can see someone wanting to do a DC2-R subframe is that its stronger from the factory, and would prevent rear swaybar subframe tearout...

UnhuZ

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Only reason I can see someone wanting to do a DC2-R subframe is that its stronger from the factory, and would prevent rear swaybar subframe tearout...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly....

ADN_pt

Exactly
Unhuz.. i Have a problem with that replacement (of the subframe)

Welding is not for all, and i don'w know what kind of welding is applyed to the subframe.. If it's a normal MIG-MAG welding it's ok.. But what if it's a laser welding? And beeing a normal MIG-MAG welding.. When our EG's were produced was not a man that welded, but a machine, with certain parameters.. and i am afraid, because the subframe is exposed to a lot of bending and shearing forces and moments I will try to learn if its a simple welding or not..
Keep it up..

(go Portugal EG's )

igyloo

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Exactly.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

what do you plan on doing?

i track my cx on kumho V710s with an ITR rear sway and beaks reinforcement kit and NO problems here

i'd replace my subframe if it tears out...or start looking for a new shell...

EgRedSi

Good luck

ADN_pt

Help me.. Cx? i don't remember what it is..

boostinhatch