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I just had a quick question... I know that the d series parts are supposed to fit other d series engines but will a d16 header fit on a d17 engine... any help would be great... thanks
shane

sohcvtec1995

i dont think they will. because of the design and all. i would just find a pic of a d16 header and compare with a pic of a d17 header.

Ricey McRicerton

Yep, they are completley different, they face different directions.

sohcvtec1995

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep, they are completley different, they face different directions.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i though it was only diffrent on the k20/k24. where the intake is upfront. or is that not what you mean by this?

dsadas89das78934

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep, they are completley different, they face different directions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i didnt think the d17 was rotated 180deg from other d-series motors... could you perhaps find something to back this up (for knowledge's sake)

The HamsterBall

D17 Header


D15/D16 Header

mycivicstoo(s)low

The D17 rotates the same way as the older d-series engines.

Ricey McRicerton

Sorry guys, looks like I got confused and was thinking about a K series motor for some reason...whoops.

EDIT: Aernt the deck heights different though??

SLeePeR012

IT WONT FIT TRUST ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look at my sig, I used to own a 2001 EM2 EX

Jim Truett

The D17 header is shorter due to the close-coupled catalytic convertor

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I was just wondering if the bolt pattern is the same because i've got a greddy turbo kit for an eg and my friend has a 2003 civic.... i was wondering if the manifold would work? does anyone have any pics of the newer civic engine bays? tia

The Internet Tough Guy

fyi, this is what this guy had to say. i have no idea who he is or how credible this is but it's interesting. it was pasted from spade's immortal d series thread, page 5.
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=5

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seekerONE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ok guys...here is the lowdown on the d17 (2001+ civic) engine
i am a tech at a honda dealer and we had to change out a d17 for a block problem so i took a little time and researched a few things and my conclusion is this...this motor sucks as far as swapping into any other d series car. don't even give another thought as to using this in anything other than 2001+civic...it won't work
mounts are radically different. the crank uses different size journals and even larger bore crank pulley.piston are the smallest, lightest and probable the weakest of any d pistons i have seen. the cylinder head has no provision for distributor installation and very different thermostat housing and coolant outlet. intake manifold is plastic and designed for saving space. injectors are the new smaller size and fuel system is returnless. the vtec for the EX model is the same vtec operation as the older HX head and even though this is a d-series engine honda has seen fit to change the head and block enough so that older components won't line up. the d17 is truley the blacksheep of the d-series. as far as i am concerned it is useless to anyone other than 2001+ civic owners</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ricey McRicerton

I know he's right about the returnless fuel system, that would be enough to scare me off.

SOHC_MShue

the d17 is ****

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alright.... thanks

SOHC_MShue

haha sorry man, but its true Someone does have a nice turbo one on here though. Props to him

Archidictus

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Because it's hard to put a turbocharger on anything?

Ricey McRicerton

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Because it's hard to put a turbocharger on anything?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought something about the returnless fuel system made it harder than **** to do. I don't really know how the returnless fuel system works, so I can't say for sure though.

Osoboosted

hmm... heres my D17 FULL 4-1 hp racing header


and dennn my new one.


d17
wit some head work(p&p) etc, new rods and pistons.. the D17 can handle 14psi of boost daily putting down over 300hp

SOHC_MShue

nice

mchotdog

Stock vs Stock the D17 is better than the D16. But when both engines are heavily modded (turbo) the D16 will respond better.

Ricey McRicerton

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mchotdog &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stock vs Stock the D17 is better than the D16. But when both engines are heavily modded (turbo) the D16 will respond better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Anything to back that up?

The Internet Tough Guy

hahaha.. says mr 17 posts..

read what i posted above. just cause its displacement is 0.1L bigger doesn't make it a better motor.. come on. a PLASTIC intake manifold????

Ricey McRicerton

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwn7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahaha.. says mr 17 posts..?</TD></TR></TABLE>

He's been a member 4 times as long as you.....when are you guys going to learn that post count doesnt mean jack crap??

The Internet Tough Guy

haha.. i'm just biased against anyone with that smiley face next to their name . we will see what he has to say to back that up...