D16Y5 Q's D series Guys lets see what we can do
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D16Y5 Q's D series Guys lets see what we can do
Ok I was thinking of this for a build. D16Y5 Block, Y8 pistons, Y8 TB, Z6 Head, Y8 cam, Mild P&P on head, Port matched Manifold, Y8 trans, HF maniflod (oh yea you know were Im going), T25, 3" exhaust, DSM downpipe, Hondata S200 program w/ boost option, 440 DSM injectors, missing link, walbro 250, Thick metal head gasket, Balanced Knife edge crank.
What do you guys think? Would this work? Would I need a FMU or any other fuel management? Is this good for say 10lbs of boost on 91 octane? This is the build I was looking for I think.
What do you guys think? Would this work? Would I need a FMU or any other fuel management? Is this good for say 10lbs of boost on 91 octane? This is the build I was looking for I think.
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Re: D16Y5 Q's D series Guys lets see what we can do (B18C1 '96 Coupe)
I have almost all of the parts you mentioned for sale, complete Y5 great condition, Y8 Block(complete except for IM, EM, Crank, rods & pistons. Y5 exhaust manifold, etc...let me know if you're interested...
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Re: D16Y5 Q's D series Guys lets see what we can do (B18C1 '96 Coupe)
I'd use some LS rods and shot peen them, other than that you should be fine for 10 lbs of boost.
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Re: D16Y5 Q's D series Guys lets see what we can do (RyanCivic2000)
with the LS rods dont I have to take them and machine them? what exactly do I need to make them work?
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Re: D16Y5 Q's D series Guys lets see what we can do (B18C1 '96 Coupe)
I believe only a small amount of machine work is required (not exactly sure what is involved), I would take them in to have them shot peened anyways.
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Re: D16Y5 Q's D series Guys lets see what we can do (RyanCivic2000)
for sure shot peen. But Ls rods are stronger. And shot peened would be nice on LS rods. HMM I wonder what is requiered. Pages and pages of searching here I come.
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Re: D16Y5 Q's D series Guys lets see what we can do (B18C1 '96 Coupe)
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C1 '96 Coupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok I was thinking of this for a build.
D16Y5 Block, Girdle?
Y8 pistons,going turbo why not use the Y5's only .2 lower comp
Y8 TB, All D series tb's (56mm) are the same size use the one you have or get a B series DOHC tb (60mm)
Z6 Head, Why not a Y8?
Y8 cam, Not compatable with the Z6 head unless you have a cam gear and you will need the Y8 dizzy
Mild P&P on head,
Port matched Manifold,
Y8 trans, w/ LSD
HF maniflod (oh yea you know were Im going),
T25, 3" exhaust, DSM downpipe, Hondata S200 program w/ boost option, 440 DSM injectors, missing link, walbro 250, What boost are you running, plan everything and research everything before stepping into the purchases
Thick metal head gasket, Then why use the Y8 pistons?
Balanced Knife edge crank. NO, knife edging will take away the balnace of the crank and you need it for the boost.
What do you guys think? Would this work? Would I need a FMU or any other fuel management? Is this good for say 10lbs of boost on 91 octane? This is the build I was looking for I think.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C1 '96 Coupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok I was thinking of this for a build.
D16Y5 Block, Girdle?
Y8 pistons,going turbo why not use the Y5's only .2 lower comp
Y8 TB, All D series tb's (56mm) are the same size use the one you have or get a B series DOHC tb (60mm)
Z6 Head, Why not a Y8?
Y8 cam, Not compatable with the Z6 head unless you have a cam gear and you will need the Y8 dizzy
Mild P&P on head,
Port matched Manifold,
Y8 trans, w/ LSD
HF maniflod (oh yea you know were Im going),
T25, 3" exhaust, DSM downpipe, Hondata S200 program w/ boost option, 440 DSM injectors, missing link, walbro 250, What boost are you running, plan everything and research everything before stepping into the purchases
Thick metal head gasket, Then why use the Y8 pistons?
Balanced Knife edge crank. NO, knife edging will take away the balnace of the crank and you need it for the boost.
What do you guys think? Would this work? Would I need a FMU or any other fuel management? Is this good for say 10lbs of boost on 91 octane? This is the build I was looking for I think.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: D16Y5 Q's D series Guys lets see what we can do (Spade)
Where can I get a Girdle for the block?
So I guess I will use the whole Y5 block and not use the Y8 pistons
not TB my bad I ment IM. and use a B series TB
Z6 Head, Why not a Y8? I heard Z6s flowed a little better? dont know for sure though. But i know someone with a Y8 head just lieing around.
I guess the Y8 cam is out because I really dont want to mess with drilling to fit a Dizzy.
Y8 trans, w/ LSD - What about a spool or welded dif?
10lbs of boost is my goal maybe more what do you think it could handel? 12?
Then why use the Y8 pistons? strenghth in the head area.
NO, knife edging will take away the balnace of the crank and you need it for the boost. well then Ill just balance it.
My answers and questions in bold
So I guess I will use the whole Y5 block and not use the Y8 pistons
not TB my bad I ment IM. and use a B series TB
Z6 Head, Why not a Y8? I heard Z6s flowed a little better? dont know for sure though. But i know someone with a Y8 head just lieing around.
I guess the Y8 cam is out because I really dont want to mess with drilling to fit a Dizzy.
Y8 trans, w/ LSD - What about a spool or welded dif?
10lbs of boost is my goal maybe more what do you think it could handel? 12?
Then why use the Y8 pistons? strenghth in the head area.
NO, knife edging will take away the balnace of the crank and you need it for the boost. well then Ill just balance it.
My answers and questions in bold
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Re: D16Y5 Q's D series Guys lets see what we can do (B18C1 '96 Coupe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C1 '96 Coupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where can I get a Girdle for the block?Any Y8 bottom end.
So I guess I will use the whole Y5 block and not use the Y8 pistons
not TB my bad I ment IM. and use a B series TB good
I heard Z6s flowed a little better? dont know for sure though. But i know someone with a Y8 head just lieing around.Not much more and the Y8 has a better compression chamber design
I guess the Y8 cam is out because I really dont want to mess with drilling to fit a Dizzy.
What about a spool or welded dif? Becaues you'll want to turn sometime
10lbs of boost is my goal maybe more what do you think it could handel? 12? Nope, stick with 10
Then why use the Y8 pistons? strenghth in the head area. Actually if you look at the ringlands that's where the strengh is. Almost all D series pistons have the same sized ringland. The Y5 and Y8 have the same size.
NO, knife edging will take away the balnace of the crank and you need it for the boost. well then Ill just balance it. Good idea
My answers and questions in bold</TD></TR></TABLE>
I changed your comments to ordinary or Italizized. I am on bold now
So I guess I will use the whole Y5 block and not use the Y8 pistons
not TB my bad I ment IM. and use a B series TB good
I heard Z6s flowed a little better? dont know for sure though. But i know someone with a Y8 head just lieing around.Not much more and the Y8 has a better compression chamber design
I guess the Y8 cam is out because I really dont want to mess with drilling to fit a Dizzy.
What about a spool or welded dif? Becaues you'll want to turn sometime
10lbs of boost is my goal maybe more what do you think it could handel? 12? Nope, stick with 10
Then why use the Y8 pistons? strenghth in the head area. Actually if you look at the ringlands that's where the strengh is. Almost all D series pistons have the same sized ringland. The Y5 and Y8 have the same size.
NO, knife edging will take away the balnace of the crank and you need it for the boost. well then Ill just balance it. Good idea
My answers and questions in bold</TD></TR></TABLE>
I changed your comments to ordinary or Italizized. I am on bold now
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why not just get a complete d16y8? then put ls rods in, rebuild the whole bottom end with new bearings, if you insist on knife edging the crank, then get everything balanced together, and throw on a nice head gasket to handle the boost
all this done to a y8 block would make it handle 10 pounds if tuned properly, and should last alot longer then just throwing a bunch of parts together....
y8 complete engines with trans go for under 500 any day, hell most ppl would be willing to just give them away to get them outta there garages etc...
also you didnt mention a clutch?
all this done to a y8 block would make it handle 10 pounds if tuned properly, and should last alot longer then just throwing a bunch of parts together....
y8 complete engines with trans go for under 500 any day, hell most ppl would be willing to just give them away to get them outta there garages etc...
also you didnt mention a clutch?
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Ok...I'm bring it back from the grave....
On the issue of the tranny....since the only difference in the Y5 from the Y8 is 2nd and 3rd gear and the final drive ratio....why not just modify a Y5 and put in a LSD with a different final drive?
My opinion coming from my turbo car, that with a 4.7 final drive, the 2nd and 3rd gear will be about the same as a Y8 with the 4th and 5th gear being quicker.
On the issue of the tranny....since the only difference in the Y5 from the Y8 is 2nd and 3rd gear and the final drive ratio....why not just modify a Y5 and put in a LSD with a different final drive?
My opinion coming from my turbo car, that with a 4.7 final drive, the 2nd and 3rd gear will be about the same as a Y8 with the 4th and 5th gear being quicker.
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Cause that would be easy
Some people don't realize what they have when they throw it away.
So yes, you could find any sohc tranny and place a LSD and short final in it to have a better than EX tranny.
Some people don't realize what they have when they throw it away.
So yes, you could find any sohc tranny and place a LSD and short final in it to have a better than EX tranny.
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