JAdams1034

I know this is a little bit unorthodox, but I got a good deal on the motor and I know it will bolt to my transmission. Now for the complications. I am rebuilding the motor for boost, so everything will be new in the motor. I am thinking my difficulties will happen with the ignition system. I have the older d16a1 that runs a vac. advance distributor system. does anyone know if this is upgradable to the newer electronic advance system? If that is not a problem I am sure I can get the wiring figured out once I get that problem solved.
I am doing this for the fact that it isa unorthodox, I like to have things that most dont have. I have seen this swap done with the newer d16a1, but not the older, so any info anyone might have from personal experiences would be appreciated. Critacizim is also welcome, because you will be the person getting passed when I am done! j/k Thought, comments, ect all is welcome, just don't try to talk me out of it, because like I said, I am doing it to be different.

JAdams1034

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The_Head

You're not getting any replies because it aint such a great idea. It's possible but it's not going to be cost efficient.

It is possible to upgrade to electronic advance.

JAdams1034

I am doing it to be different, not to take the easiest route. Do you know if I would have to swith to the newer 88-89 integra head to do the electronic ignition? Or is there a way of bolting up a electronic dizzy to that head.

The_Head

It seems ironic that you have a Honda, yet you want to be different. Kind of an oxymoron if you ask me.

Anyho, you can use the old head, you just have to switch out the mounting bracket (?) for the dizzy. A few people on g1teg.org have done it.

B18C5-EH2

My boss put dual carbs on a D16Y7 in a CR-X, and it was different alright, but it was also slow as FUUCK.

Does the engine you have have the external TDC sensor on the exhaust cam?

EG6EP3

not a good idea, just stick with what u got

The_Head

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Yes they have that. Well, the 86-87's (which is what he has, (vac advance dizzy)) do. Not 100% sure about the 88-89's, but I think they do as well.

JAdams1034

I understand that having a honda is not different, but then again neither is owning a Evo (like I do also) or a 2g Eclipse GST(previous to evo), but it is what you do with it that makes it different not the actual car. If you are trying to be different with just owning a car, you are going to need to buy a Skyline or something of the rhd nature. I like taking what I have and making it different. I like someone looking in my engine bay and saying, wow I haven't seen that 5000 times. As for the friend with the CRX, it probably just needs tuning. Honda Tuning took an ek ex I belive and made about 150 hp with itb's and tuning. But power to your friend for trying to be different. This is going to be a built for turbo motor. I do ned some opinons on transmissions. I do want to do some high speed runs, but I dont want to kill the 1/4 mile time with too long of gears. So if anyone could point me in the right direction I would appreciated

B18C5-EH2

Okay as far as your engine swap goes I cannot offer up any help other than you'll need to do some wiring changes, and quite possibly convert to pre-OBD electronics because from my understanding the distributor pulse rates on a pre-OBD distributor cannot be made to work with an OBD1 ECU.

I wonder if the ultra-rare OBD1 JDM DOHC ZC engine's distributor would bolt up to your D16A1? If it did that could really simplify things, but finding one may prove difficult to impossible.

Tranny suggestions?

Honestly you won't make enough power to warrant gears taller than the stock 92-95 Civic Si/EX transmission, so get one if you can. The CX/VX tranny you have is horrible for acceleration, and the DX is better, but still not ideal.

I'd probably even go further and drop in an LSD and maybe even a shorter final drive like a 4.78 or even 4.929 unless you're planning on sick boost and 300+whp.

JAdams1034

I am expecting about 300whp so would your tranny oppinion change with that?

B18C5-EH2

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List the build and set-up that getting you to 300whp if you don't mind.

I'd still at least get a 92-95 Civic Si/EX tranny or 96-00 EX tranny - trust me the CX, VX, or DX will still be too tall.

The tranny I'm suggesting is closest to the B series Integra LS tranny, and even that was too tall for my friend's 500+whp 10 second Civic so there's no way you'll need longer-than-stock EX/Si gears.

B18C5-EH2

BTW:

If you're building a sick turbo set-up then you're only making it way harder than need be by using a pre OBD engine bro. Trust me if you'd just build up a nice OBD1 D16Z6 you could run cheap tuning options such as Uberdata, Crome, etc. with no need for any wiring bullshit.

When you're making 300whp nobody gives a rat's *** if it's a D16A1 or a SOHC bro.

JAdams1034

All good points, maybe I will just do a standard rebuild on this motor and sell it to a crx guy. Then I will get a odb1 zc and go from there, I have read that swap is almost bolt in.

The_Head

I recommend an OBD-1 ZC as well.

and AFAIK the D16A1 can only use D16A1 transmissions... if you're using a later version ZC motor, I'm sure the situation is much different, since they are alot more similar to modern D series motors.

tegra28

i use to have a d16a6 supercharge... and it didn't make a big differents... i think your better off with a d16z6 sohc vtec... its better then ur non vtec and the distributor on the a6 and z6 are different