Vt3c_eg

im building up my block and was wondering if these block guard are good. are these the new design that will not overheat? anyone use these before? its kms blockguard.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

THC07

what are you building?

open or closed decks do not effect cooloing or make any hotspots.


EDIT: Open deck ftw

Vt3c_eg

building my d16z6 block with vitara pistons and eagle rods. useing block guard. and boosting.

THC07

oh, how much boost? 15+ ??

dohcdelsol

to be honest with you, ive done several d series blocks with keeping the stock sleeves. but when it comes time for new sleeves or doing a block guard, i would personally take it to a builder.

check up with earl or golden eagle. if you do some research, you will see that they do damn great work.

Vt3c_eg

yes 15+.

Vt3c_eg

yes 15+.
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check up with earl or golden eagle. if you do some research, you will see that they do damn great work.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so you think stock sleeve will do the job?at least 300whp.

dohcdelsol

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so you think stock sleeve will do the job?at least 300whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

all depends on the tune and condition of the stock sleeves. right now the motor im building is stock sleeves bored .020 and shooting for 300whp. no block guard.

ive seen d series handle 400whp on stock sleeves (pink car) but like i said, the tune has a big affect on it.

Vt3c_eg

yeah. i think ill still get the block gaurd just to make sure. you're right it depend on the tuning too! thanks for your advice.

Shaun_

Full race d series build for pinks ran 30+ psi on stock d sleeves.

1995Civic

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Honestly...if you're building for 300whp no need to sleeve the block.

A block guard is alright, however its not necessary. It only supports the top of the sleeve, and still can leave the bottom prone to cracking.

Like I said though, you should def be alright without it. Just have the block checked out at a machine shop, and find out if the cylinders are out of round. If they are, you will need to have it re-bored.

If you do go with a BG, get a Golden Eagle.

Vt3c_eg

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Honestly...if you're building for 300whp no need to sleeve the block.

A block guard is alright, however its not necessary. It only supports the top of the sleeve, and still can leave the bottom prone to cracking.

Like I said though, you should def be alright without it. Just have the block checked out at a machine shop, and find out if the cylinders are out of round. If they are, you will need to have it re-bored.

If you do go with a BG, get a Golden Eagle. </TD></TR></TABLE>

so golden eagle you think is better!? how about kms? which is better?

1995Civic

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so golden eagle you think is better!? how about kms? which is better?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Golden Eagle. Their cooling is far superior.

Like I said though, Im not a big believer in BG's. I think the idea for them is right, however as i stated before, it doesnt do anything to provide protection for the bottom of the cylinders.

Syndacate

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All those nice, high end, name brand parts, and you're gonna pair it with a POS ebay block guard?

Not what i would do, but it's your engine.

Vt3c_eg

its kms. im going to get it from either kms or golden eagle. there not cheap ebay stuff.

1995Civic

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I would still go for GE if anything.

Im still standing by what I said about how you dont need it.

Do you know to truely install it correctly?

Vt3c_eg

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I would still go for GE if anything.

Im still standing by what I said about how you dont need it.

Do you know to truely install it correctly?</TD></TR></TABLE>

since you said that i think ill go with golden eagle. no i dont know how to install it.do you know or know a link to how to install block gaurd.

1995Civic

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since you said that i think ill go with golden eagle. no i dont know how to install it.do you know or know a link to how to install block gaurd. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Heres some info on why you dont need one...listen to Rota92. Hes my bud, hes a D series Guru

http://www.turbod16.com/viewto...stall

Vt3c_eg

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Heres some info on why you dont need one...listen to Rota92. Hes my bud, hes a D series Guru

http://www.turbod16.com/viewto...stall</TD></TR></TABLE>

thank you! so i guess i dont need bg.i guess i can run stock sleeves and still be good! thats sweet. save me 100+ bucks.

1995Civic

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thank you! so i guess i dont need bg.i guess i can run stock sleeves and still be good! thats sweet. save me 100+ bucks. </TD></TR></TABLE>

For sure man.

Thats why we're here!

Good luck with everything.

ballisticej1

I'm trying for 300+whp or so, not more than 350ish on stock sleeves with 76mm vitaras. No block guard.