phylthyphyll

Car is a 1993, Honda Civic Lx
Car a jdm D15b vtec, the body isnt jdm ofcourse, just the motor.

Car started fine, and ran strong the night befor.
We changed the clutch, and put the tranny back in, and plugged everthing back to where it went. Checked all the grounds. You know. The basic stuff.
Car will not start. Engine is getting fuel. Engine cranks over strong.
Theres no spark. Pretty sure thats why it wont start.

Why am I not getting a spark?

I checked all the fuses and relays with a test light, everythings getting power. Checked all wires and grounds again, and again, and everything is where it should be. I doubt that its the ignition coil, seeing how it started fine the other night.

Is there a way to test the ignition coil?

However, we did not start the engine prior to removal of the transmission, other than the night befor. So idk if its something I did upon removal of the transmission, or if this problem exisited befor hand.

In summary
car started fine befor removing the trans.
car is getting fuel and no spark
engine cranks but will not fire...
HELP!! I just bought this car three days ago.

ahobbs

if your not getting spark now it's going to be in your ignition system. Even though you may not want to say it, it could be the coil. Freak things can happen. I changed a tranny once and the car would not start. traced the lines back and a wire happen to come apart on the driver side of the car. Ironic Point is anything can happen

phylthyphyll

Im not ruling out the Igniton coil. I just dont want to replace it unless i.k. for sure thats its the ignition coil!! Know what I mean?

Is there a ways to test the coil??
theres gotta be.
mabe i'll go buy a haynes manual


Theres no irony here. its just a quinkydink.

Matt93eg

Heard that, and the "coincidental" things that seem to go wrong are on a part of the car that you didn't even touch when doing something else, thus in this case seems it might be the coil when it wasn't touched during the clutch replacement, throws your head for a loop I tell you that much.

I replaced spark plugs on my cousin's del-sol(D15B7)and it wouldn't start after the new plugs were in. I traced it back to being a bad coil, pulled the coil from my LS and put in it and it fired right up.

Matt93eg

I found this on a site on a google search:

Here is how to diagnose problems with the Ignition Coil:
There is a BLK/YEL and WHT/BLU wires connected to the coil. Call the terminal to which the BLK/YEL is connected terminal A and the other one terminal B. The circular thing on the side of a coil is a secondary winding terminal. Switch ignition to OFF. Remove the screws and disconnect the wires from terminals A and B. Using an ohmmeter, measure resistance between the terminals. Replace the coil if the resistance is not within these specifications: between the A and B terminals - 0.63-0.77 ohms, and between terminal A and secondary winding terminal - 9,760-14,640 ohms.

Former User

1) Make sure the critical ground wire on the thermostat housing is clean and tight.
2) Any CEL codes?
3) Check whether the Blk/Yel wire attached to the coil has battery voltage when the key is in ON(II).
4) Do the coil resistance tests detailed above.
5) Take the igniter unit in the distributor to an auto parts store for testing.

thumper64

Did you disconnect anything else? Could you have corrosion on the wires? Wire brush the ground cables and where they bolt on. Could something have been strained or shorted out? Check the simple, stupid crap before going and blowing a bunch of money. I didn't have my truck to drive for a week because of a little corrosion on the fuel pump wires.

phylthyphyll

okay, I'm gonna test the ign. coil.

There obviously is a little corrosion on the ground cables,
but not enough to inhibit electrical current.

Yes there are c.e.l. codes, but thats probably because I have the wrong ecu...
remember the car isn't j-spec, but the motor is straight from Japan.
Its suppose to run off of a P28, but the engine didn't come with one.
So I've been running it with obd-1 wich isn't a big deal.
I just dont have vtec unless I wire it to a switch.

I was freeking out, because a friend of mine that was helping me, thinks that my missery is commical kept touching the seloniod wire to the power post on the battery triggering the vtec. but the engine wasn't on so i.d.t. it hurt anything.

Former User

phylthyphyll

I was thinking that i stretched a wire or something. Because I only had one jack and stand. so i had no choice but to let the engine "hang" while i positioned the transmission to slide back in.
Also I have a 1992 integra with a brand-new distributor. the engine is a B18a1 DOHC
would the ignition coil in that engine be compatible with a SOCH vtec? its obd1 aswell.

phylthyphyll

Right. I'll pull the codes anyways.
Can I pull them w/o a programmer?
Unfortunetly I dont have one

Former User

CEL codes -- you just need a piece of wire. Click here.

For good measure, also clean and tighten the ground on the thermostat housing. If that ground is bad, you won't have spark.

HondaPartsHero

http://techauto.awardspace.com/ignition.html

phylthyphyll

Thanks to everyone who replyed. Your a BIG help!!
and I thought I wasted my time signing up for this site!! lol
Guess you proved me wrong....

Still havn't solved the problem though...
I did some checking and I'm gonna try using the igniter coil from my B18a1!!
They were the same part number online. So if this does, or still dosn't work,
I'll keep you posted. I'm sure someone would like to know.

turboacurab20

yeah defienatly the coil

clockwork675

i would still definately check the ground on the thermostat housing, ripping just one wire can cause that, its like 4-5 black wires that come out of the engine harness after it comes from the strut tower and after it splits and goes to the dizzy

phylthyphyll

yeah it was the f-ing coil.... lucky that i had a donor vehicle.

99EeeKay

sell me that b18, i need a spare motor to put all my forged gooies into over the winter for my 4dr

phylthyphyll

The b18a1 stays with the teg! I'll sell the teg for the right price!
Teg has lots of new parts too.