d-series Turbo?
12-03-2003, 08:07 AM
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d-series Turbo?
i recently bought a 99 honda civic and to know the best way to fix it up...Should i turbo or just go w/ a b-series engine swap?
thnx in advance
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12-03-2003, 08:26 AM
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Re: d-series Turbo? (infinatenexus)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infinatenexus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turbo.. and go for the edleborck kit</TD></TR></TABLE>
i agree. if you have the money definately do this. if not then you might wanna piece together a custom turbo kit, it will be cheaper cause you can buy some used parts...
i agree. if you have the money definately do this. if not then you might wanna piece together a custom turbo kit, it will be cheaper cause you can buy some used parts...
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12-03-2003, 08:32 AM
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Re: d-series Turbo? (Dasani)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dasani »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the edelbrock looks good but i cant find prices on them and where to get it from.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think one of the vendors was selling it in the Sponsor Marketplace a little bit ago.
Edit - There are probably other companies selling it but here is one
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=674992
I think one of the vendors was selling it in the Sponsor Marketplace a little bit ago.
Edit - There are probably other companies selling it but here is one
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=674992
12-03-2003, 10:03 AM
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Re: d-series Turbo? (Dasani)
Here's the deal. Everyone on this site will tell you to go with the Edelbrock kit, or do a B-series then turbo down the line, so you can have big HP numbers (i.e. 300+whp, a lot for a D.D.)
My advice: since you're new to the Honda game, start with a Greddy turbo kit or Edelbrock kit if you really want it. I love my greddy turbo kit because it's cheap and works perfectly. It's capable of up to 250whp - a lot of people say that's not much power - how many of them have actually driven a 250whp FWD car? Trust me, it's plenty for the street. Expect a high 13 second quarter mile on street tires at 10 psi, stock internals, open downpipe; at 15 psi with rods/pistons and 250whp, probably a low 13 on street tires/drag radials, or even a high 12 on slicks w/LSD, etc. (if you're a DAMN good driver though) - in a loaded coupe
Here's my current setup:
-used greddy turbo kit, with bov, sidemount IC, blue box - 900 (shopped around all summer)
-open downpipe for the track - free
-walbro fuel pump (255lph) - 75 used
-Exedy organic clutch - 200
at 10 psi, I'll be making 200-205whp with this setup and probably be running high 13's like the other guys already using this.
I'm a firm believer in the idea of having USEABLE horsepower for the street (read: less than 300whp) and a smooth powerband with quick spool. that's what the greddy turbo kit is all about.
My advice: since you're new to the Honda game, start with a Greddy turbo kit or Edelbrock kit if you really want it. I love my greddy turbo kit because it's cheap and works perfectly. It's capable of up to 250whp - a lot of people say that's not much power - how many of them have actually driven a 250whp FWD car? Trust me, it's plenty for the street. Expect a high 13 second quarter mile on street tires at 10 psi, stock internals, open downpipe; at 15 psi with rods/pistons and 250whp, probably a low 13 on street tires/drag radials, or even a high 12 on slicks w/LSD, etc. (if you're a DAMN good driver though) - in a loaded coupe
Here's my current setup:
-used greddy turbo kit, with bov, sidemount IC, blue box - 900 (shopped around all summer)
-open downpipe for the track - free
-walbro fuel pump (255lph) - 75 used
-Exedy organic clutch - 200
at 10 psi, I'll be making 200-205whp with this setup and probably be running high 13's like the other guys already using this.
I'm a firm believer in the idea of having USEABLE horsepower for the street (read: less than 300whp) and a smooth powerband with quick spool. that's what the greddy turbo kit is all about.
12-03-2003, 10:24 AM
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Re: d-series Turbo? (boostincoupe)
Good advice. However I took a slightly different path. I have a 98ex and first thing that I did was suspension. My car isn't fast, but its fun to drive 
Now that my suspension is sorted out, I'm moving onto the engine. No point in having power if you can effectively get it to the ground.
Now that my suspension is sorted out, I'm moving onto the engine. No point in having power if you can effectively get it to the ground.
12-03-2003, 10:54 AM
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Re: (CodeDawg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CodeDawg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">motor swap and then turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>
I disagree. There are two ways you can go with that setup:
1. build the motor, big turbo setup = 300-400whp. How do you know that he wants that much power? maybe it's an auto-x/road racer and he just wants a quick-spooling torquey little turbo? Or just a faster daily driver?
2. stock motor, turbo setup = 200-250whp. You can do it cheaper and afford to fix mistakes (I.E. blown motor) for much cheaper with a SOHC. Plus, he's already got a motor to work with. All he needs is a turbo kit, which, if you look above at my setup, can make a 13-second car for CHEAP and be reliable.
I disagree. There are two ways you can go with that setup:1. build the motor, big turbo setup = 300-400whp. How do you know that he wants that much power? maybe it's an auto-x/road racer and he just wants a quick-spooling torquey little turbo? Or just a faster daily driver?
2. stock motor, turbo setup = 200-250whp. You can do it cheaper and afford to fix mistakes (I.E. blown motor) for much cheaper with a SOHC. Plus, he's already got a motor to work with. All he needs is a turbo kit, which, if you look above at my setup, can make a 13-second car for CHEAP and be reliable.
12-03-2003, 11:40 AM
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Re: (NoLimitz21)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NoLimitz21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would say a turbo if you dont want to spend a lot of money and still be quick. i got a buddy that has a homemade turbo(t25). he bulit is for a little bit more than $1000 and he runs a 13.9 @ 103 with 6-8 psi.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pics? setup? where is Plainview? Wanna race?
Pics? setup? where is Plainview? Wanna race?
12-03-2003, 12:35 PM
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to Boostingcoupe for repping the D series like it's supposed to. On topic...
Best way to fix up a brand new car ?
Lower it, upgrade the music and change the rims. No worries, No problems.
Best way to go fast in a honda ?
Keep your D series. Go junkyard turbo. You'll learn alot, be quick, and if your motor blows..lol it's only a few hundred bucks to get another one.
12-03-2003, 12:55 PM
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Re: d-series Turbo? (Dasani)
blew 2 dseries motors by pushin it way too much... boost is very addicting especially when you keep turnin the boost up. if u do go with boost for sure get it tuned and dont boost over 7-8lbs. but what i would do if you had the $$ is go all motor (h22 all the way)
12-03-2003, 01:01 PM
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Re: d-series Turbo? (boostincoupe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostincoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm a firm believer in the idea of having USEABLE horsepower for the street (read: less than 300whp) and a smooth powerband with quick spool. that's what the greddy turbo kit is all about. </TD></TR></TABLE>
WOW, someone who thinks the same as me.
It's all about having usable horsepower...seriously. Yeah, it's nice to hit the dyno and put down 275 whp with a boosted single cam....but is it needed??? No.
I'm running 5 psi on an Apexi kit and I still can't push too hard around corners right now without breaking loose really easy...and I'm only 135 wtq also, untuned and non intercooled.
A good turbo setup with quick spool....(I mean, I put down 128 wtq at 2500 rpm- where I started my dyno run
with the Apexi ball bearing turbo).... will be a great setup. No need to go crazy with the boost...tune it in, have a good torque curve and good throttle response, and thats all you need.
I'm a firm believer in the idea of having USEABLE horsepower for the street (read: less than 300whp) and a smooth powerband with quick spool. that's what the greddy turbo kit is all about.
</TD></TR></TABLE>WOW, someone who thinks the same as me.
It's all about having usable horsepower...seriously. Yeah, it's nice to hit the dyno and put down 275 whp with a boosted single cam....but is it needed??? No.
I'm running 5 psi on an Apexi kit and I still can't push too hard around corners right now without breaking loose really easy...and I'm only 135 wtq also, untuned and non intercooled.
A good turbo setup with quick spool....(I mean, I put down 128 wtq at 2500 rpm- where I started my dyno run
with the Apexi ball bearing turbo).... will be a great setup. No need to go crazy with the boost...tune it in, have a good torque curve and good throttle response, and thats all you need.
12-03-2003, 01:15 PM
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Re: d-series Turbo? (Emerika)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emerika »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WOW, someone who thinks the same as me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
me too.. peak #s are just for boosting your ego. the area under the curve is much more important.
also whats power without good traction? NOTHING
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emerika »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm running 5 psi on an Apexi kit and I still can't push too hard around corners right now without breaking loose really easy...and I'm only 135 wtq also, untuned and non intercooled.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sounds like you need a limited slip.
i really like the apexi kit - if i do go turbo d, that's what i think i'll end up getting. if not the full kit, just that wonderful IHI turbo and that big *** intercooler. you hit full boost at 2500 with that... awesome!
what fuel managment upgrades do you have?
me too.. peak #s are just for boosting your ego. the area under the curve is much more important.
also whats power without good traction? NOTHING
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emerika »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm running 5 psi on an Apexi kit and I still can't push too hard around corners right now without breaking loose really easy...and I'm only 135 wtq also, untuned and non intercooled.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sounds like you need a limited slip.
i really like the apexi kit - if i do go turbo d, that's what i think i'll end up getting. if not the full kit, just that wonderful IHI turbo and that big *** intercooler. you hit full boost at 2500 with that... awesome!
what fuel managment upgrades do you have?
12-03-2003, 03:32 PM
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Re: d-series Turbo? (kurvy)
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Re: d-series Turbo? (MissLady [DMV])
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I don't think it's a good idea to NOT tune your engine to make it "easy to replace". Build it right, run the turbo setup you want (via wastegate) and use the extra power only when you need it. AKA track.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I don't think it's a good idea to NOT tune your engine to make it "easy to replace". Build it right, run the turbo setup you want (via wastegate) and use the extra power only when you need it. AKA track.
12-03-2003, 10:48 PM
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Re: d-series Turbo? (jwn7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwn7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
sounds like you need a limited slip.
what fuel managment upgrades do you have?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm running RC 310's and Hondata S200B untuned though...just running a base map. ALso running 2 1/4 exhaust and a 100k mile old car, which doesn't seem to help much...lol.
Limited slip will be last. First thing I'm doing is an equal length drive setup, like a B series...with an intermediate shaft and half shafts. That along with a custom chrome moly traction bar setup my friend is building for me, should help out plenty. Also, my winter 185-60-14's don't help much either
sounds like you need a limited slip.
what fuel managment upgrades do you have?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm running RC 310's and Hondata S200B untuned though...just running a base map. ALso running 2 1/4 exhaust and a 100k mile old car, which doesn't seem to help much...lol.
Limited slip will be last. First thing I'm doing is an equal length drive setup, like a B series...with an intermediate shaft and half shafts. That along with a custom chrome moly traction bar setup my friend is building for me, should help out plenty. Also, my winter 185-60-14's don't help much either