CRXSiR71777

*Bauley Approved*

I'm just trying to gauge the interest if I started cranking out some D-series gear boxes with real LSDs (gear type) with custom gear ratios, different 1-4 and low 5th for highway. Pretty much custom boxes for whatever someone wanted to use it for. Plus rebuilt with all good syncros and ready to bolt in for 995 plus your core back. Give me some feed back on what you all think of this. Cable and Hydro since they are both pretty much the same, I'll have all the parts for them. Any comments would be great. Thanks guys.

Redline96LX

sounds fantastic. i got a y7, and ive been wantin a y8 tranny for its gear ratios. now i could get that with a LSD all pre built, just get a clutch and bolt it in. not a bad deal, im interested.

then we could have low gears for goin fast, good gas mileage for 5th, a LSD, strong shift forks, and good synchros. sounds perfect!

Aquafina

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What brand LSD?

Using OEM Honda gears (EX, Si, ZC, etc.) or custom gears?

What FD?

Why low 5th?

BauleyCivic

I'm also wondering what LSD?

Redline96LX

pleese say quaife.....

beandip

I personally think 3rd & 4th are the only ones that need to be modified, but thats me.

CRXSiR71777

Okay, I know the brand is not thought to be the best. But we have used them in street cars and absolutely love them.

Its an OBX diff.

Aquafina

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EDIT: OBX, I'll pass.


Modified by Aquafina at 3:55 PM 11/30/2004

CRXSiR71777

Thanks guys.
If you search for 'OBX LSD' you can read about the guy who is running one on his 400whp turbo car and also loves it. They look to be direct copies of quaifes and seem to work just as good if not better, for us atleast.
Thanks again for your imput.



Modified by CRXSiR71777@aol.com at 4:35 PM 11/30/2004

JeffS

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pull back on the reigns some...

A "direct copy" with lesser-quality machining isn't going to be "better".

CivicSiRracer69

yea it seems if you take the OBX apart and flip some **** around and torque down some bolts and what not that these things are holding up. Id be intrested if that price came down a bit and there was a warrenty maybe??

Vero

My feed back is that I wish you came out with this when I rebuilt my tranny 6 months back ~ replacing all the syncos and everything. Cost me close to just as much to do it!

I would of gladly had yours done insted for the few bills more.

edit: I just read its OBX, sorta less intrested from bad experiences.

Targa250R

You guys need to be more realistic. He is still offering a very good deal (although that's debatable if you don't trust the hardware).

Sure, I'd kill for a cable box with the ATS 4.9:1 FD, a Quaife ATB, and the ZC gear sets. It's not going to happen for $1000 though.

Quaife ATBs are $1000 alone, and even at dealer cost are still around $800.

The few FDs I've seen for hydro boxes are at least $500-550 (SRR 4.7:1 and 4.9:1), and for cable boxes, there is only one FD I know of (the 4.9:1 ATS unit) - and it costs $950 . . .

Gear sets aren't cheap either, and even with core exchanges will be hard to come by at reasonable prices.

And labor?

You have to understand that for such a low price, you're not going to get top-quality hardware, so don't expect it. If you want the top notch stuff, you'll have to pay more for it.

I plan on building up my cable Si transmission for H4/ITA within the next few years with the items I mentioned above (minus the ZC gear sets which are illegal), and I have estimated that the aftermarket parts plus OEM parts for the refresh/rebuild will run me at least $2700 (the price I paid for the entire car) - and that's with both discounts and free labor.

Thus, I know the $1000 w/core number is extremely enticing, especially with new synchros (aftermarket I assume; what about bearings?). I've read what little information is still available on the OBX Quaife-clone, and there have been both good and bad testimonials. I am going to continue waiting to see how these things hold up; I have a feeling that the next season will see more failures, and I want to see exactly what/where the weak points are. I am not expecting to be impressed or surprised though.

MugenHonda

OBX might hold up, but longevity wise, i doubt it
KAAZ, Quaife, and ATS are all I would use
I have a 2 way clutch KAAZ on my sr20det silvia and 50k and is still holding

JeffS

Don't get me wrong, I think this is a very good deal, and if I owned a D-series I might buy one...

NathanMorris

not to mention the labor on putting all that together - tranny work is no fun, much more complex than engine work.

That, and the OBX differential is not a bad item at all, I've seen it take a lot of abuse. Just because it's an "off" brand, or some of their other products suck - doesn't mean that the differential is just going to blow up in 10 seconds after you put it in. In fact, I'd imagine that most people are not running set ups that would even begin to threaten it's abilities - that is, several hundred foot lbs of torque - say, 250+ to be extremely conservative.

For $995 for all of that, if I had a D, I'd buy it - I would personalyl be intrested in something similar for the B. If I were a fan of tranny work, I would put one together myself - but uh ya, pass on that

- Nathan

Deemeetree

Then again, wasn't there a thread where someone grenaded an OBX LSD to ****?

Marauder

That's a good deal for a LSD rebuilt tranny. Have any references to how good you build?

I had a Gear Speed tranny built for my civic, with carbon coated synchros and installed a Kaaz LSD. Since I supplied the LSD they built it as a Type I transmission with two year warranty.

I just believe in quality parts, but for those with not much money, this is a good deal. I just wouldn't push the limits of the LSD, its too new to determine how long they will last.

Everyone has a right to be worried, OBX is a copycat company that sells cheap parts....how could one not question it! That would just be dumb, its like the SSAutoChrome crap turbo manifolds, yeah they are cheap, but when they crack and break all the time. If the OBX LSD actually is a decent LSD that holds up, they will just have to be proven over time, until then I'd invest in the quality.

Spade

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This is a great deal. I had mine (back when I didn't know ****) rebuilt for $1150!

Rednas

This seems like a good deal, the price for such work is usually much higher.

People are complaining about the OBX name but for the price you cant get top of the line equipment.

RedEK

what about using phantom grips (go for what...$250 i think) instead of the obx?

BauleyCivic

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Phantom Grips are worse than OBX

adnoh

$500 for a factory d15 tranny w/ lsd. That's the price I was quoted. It's not rebuilt, but it has around 40k-80k on the tranny from japan.

That's if you could even find one.

Ricey McRicerton

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And that's with a LSD that won't handle much over 140whp. Anyone know how much power the OBX units can support?

B16aDasher

i think it sound very interesting. MAybe you should offer a version with a quaife for the people who dont want the obx. For more money ofcourse.