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d series cam question-some tech
okay, i broke my cam the other day as some of you already know. i have been shopping around for a new cam. either zex or crower. i have found one of each used and they are both for the d16z6 motor. why are the manufacturer's saying that we can't use the z6 cam in the y8 head? well they actually dont say that but theu list different part numbers.
i thought most d parts were interchangeable.. i have a non - vtec cam- can i put it in my vtec head for the moment until my new cam arrives? no racing just driving..
so has anyone used a z6 cam in the y8 head? and if so anything i need to do to make it work?? thanks
i thought most d parts were interchangeable.. i have a non - vtec cam- can i put it in my vtec head for the moment until my new cam arrives? no racing just driving..
so has anyone used a z6 cam in the y8 head? and if so anything i need to do to make it work?? thanks
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mycvc8u2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay, i broke my cam the other day as some of you already know. i have been shopping around for a new cam. either zex or crower. i have found one of each used and they are both for the d16z6 motor. why are the manufacturer's saying that we can't use the z6 cam in the y8 head? well they actually dont say that but theu list different part numbers.
i thought most d parts were interchangeable.. i have a non - vtec cam- can i put it in my vtec head for the moment until my new cam arrives? no racing just driving..
so has anyone used a z6 cam in the y8 head? and if so anything i need to do to make it work?? thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>
The Distributor key is in a different postion from each of the engines. To use a Z6 cam in a Y8 or vise versa you need an adjustable cam gear.
Most D parts are interchangeable.
NO you cannot put a non-VTEC cam in a VTEC head.
i thought most d parts were interchangeable.. i have a non - vtec cam- can i put it in my vtec head for the moment until my new cam arrives? no racing just driving..
so has anyone used a z6 cam in the y8 head? and if so anything i need to do to make it work?? thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>
The Distributor key is in a different postion from each of the engines. To use a Z6 cam in a Y8 or vise versa you need an adjustable cam gear.
Most D parts are interchangeable.
NO you cannot put a non-VTEC cam in a VTEC head.
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Re: d series cam question-some tech (Spade)
I have a Zex Z6 cam in my Y8. He is right, you must get an adjustable cam gear and advance it about 5 degrees for it to be at a relative 0 marking for the Y8 head. Because of this I have my gear turned to about 7 or 8 degrees, which in reality is only about 2 or 3 degrees of advance.
Also, the Zex street cam is great, I highly recommend it.
Also, the Zex street cam is great, I highly recommend it.
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Re: d series cam question-some tech (Spade)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spade »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The Distributor key is in a different postion from each of the engines. To use a Z6 cam in a Y8 or vise versa you need an adjustable cam gear.
Most D parts are interchangeable.
NO you cannot put a non-VTEC cam in a VTEC head.
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thanks spade... will do!!!!!
The Distributor key is in a different postion from each of the engines. To use a Z6 cam in a Y8 or vise versa you need an adjustable cam gear.
Most D parts are interchangeable.
NO you cannot put a non-VTEC cam in a VTEC head.
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thanks spade... will do!!!!!
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Re: d series cam question-some tech (luti)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by luti »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Also, the Zex street cam is great, I highly recommend it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is that the 5100 or the 5300 (the 5300 is the stree/strip cam)?
Are you running upgraded springs/retainers?
Also, the Zex street cam is great, I highly recommend it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is that the 5100 or the 5300 (the 5300 is the stree/strip cam)?
Are you running upgraded springs/retainers?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sushiboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Is that the 5100 or the 5300 (the 5300 is the stree/strip cam)?
Are you running upgraded springs/retainers? </TD></TR></TABLE>
do you mean 59100 and 59300??
i am putting in a 59300 from a z6 with a cam gear as soon as it comes in the mail. and no, no retainers and springs for now. i like breaking things!! but there are a lot of people out there with that cam and no springs or retainers.. i plan on doing it but in a few weeks..
Is that the 5100 or the 5300 (the 5300 is the stree/strip cam)?
Are you running upgraded springs/retainers? </TD></TR></TABLE>
do you mean 59100 and 59300??
i am putting in a 59300 from a z6 with a cam gear as soon as it comes in the mail. and no, no retainers and springs for now. i like breaking things!! but there are a lot of people out there with that cam and no springs or retainers.. i plan on doing it but in a few weeks..
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Re: d series cam question-some tech (mycvc8u2)
Just out of curiosity, why would you do that? Why not just buy the Y8 cam (the ZEX 105100 or 105300)? Is it not out yet? Does it not make as much power?
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Re: d series cam question-some tech (Sushiboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sushiboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just out of curiosity, why would you do that? Why not just buy the Y8 cam (the ZEX 105100 or 105300)? Is it not out yet? Does it not make as much power? </TD></TR></TABLE>
The 105300 has the exact same lobe specs as the 59300; the only difference is ... you got it! ... it's made for the Y8 specifically. I was originally going to get a 105300, but I couldn't find any place that sold one. If you visit ZEX's webpage, you can order a Y8 cam, but they don't even tell you which one you'll get. So I'm assuming it's not out yet. Do a search on Google, and you'll have a hard time finding a store that sells the 105300.
The 105300 has the exact same lobe specs as the 59300; the only difference is ... you got it! ... it's made for the Y8 specifically. I was originally going to get a 105300, but I couldn't find any place that sold one. If you visit ZEX's webpage, you can order a Y8 cam, but they don't even tell you which one you'll get. So I'm assuming it's not out yet. Do a search on Google, and you'll have a hard time finding a store that sells the 105300.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by draco067 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What I'd like to know is this, for people running either cam in either head - how do the idle and fuel consumption compare to before you dropped the cam in?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm running the Skunk2 Stage 1 in my Y8. The specs are supposed to be similar to the 59300, but I haven't seen any hard proof. Anyway, the engine idles like stock (just more valve and induction noise) and fuel wise? Well, I've driven 216 miles and still have about half a tank left.
I'm running the Skunk2 Stage 1 in my Y8. The specs are supposed to be similar to the 59300, but I haven't seen any hard proof. Anyway, the engine idles like stock (just more valve and induction noise) and fuel wise? Well, I've driven 216 miles and still have about half a tank left.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JdMCiviCCupE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i want to buy a cam also ..but ive heard they are backordered everywhere ..and id be waiting months for it..is this at all true?</TD></TR></TABLE>
summit has a crower stege 1 in stock. but only one. i called 2 days ago.
i got my zex on ebay-should have it in a few days
summit has a crower stege 1 in stock. but only one. i called 2 days ago.
i got my zex on ebay-should have it in a few days
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daniel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm running the Skunk2 Stage 1 in my Y8. The specs are supposed to be similar to the 59300, but I haven't seen any hard proof. Anyway, the engine idles like stock (just more valve and induction noise) and fuel wise? Well, I've driven 216 miles and still have about half a tank left. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i get like 250 to the tank???? with no cam... hmmm.. wonder why.. is there a big difference between cx fuel filter and si/ex fuel filter? i already changed my pump.. could my dizzy cause bad mileage??????
I'm running the Skunk2 Stage 1 in my Y8. The specs are supposed to be similar to the 59300, but I haven't seen any hard proof. Anyway, the engine idles like stock (just more valve and induction noise) and fuel wise? Well, I've driven 216 miles and still have about half a tank left. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i get like 250 to the tank???? with no cam... hmmm.. wonder why.. is there a big difference between cx fuel filter and si/ex fuel filter? i already changed my pump.. could my dizzy cause bad mileage??????
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daniel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The 105300 has the exact same lobe specs as the 59300; the only difference is ... you got it! ... it's made for the Y8 specifically. I was originally going to get a 105300, but I couldn't find any place that sold one. If you visit ZEX's webpage, you can order a Y8 cam, but they don't even tell you which one you'll get. So I'm assuming it's not out yet. Do a search on Google, and you'll have a hard time finding a store that sells the 105300.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i see said the blind man to his deaf girlfriend over the phone!!
The 105300 has the exact same lobe specs as the 59300; the only difference is ... you got it! ... it's made for the Y8 specifically. I was originally going to get a 105300, but I couldn't find any place that sold one. If you visit ZEX's webpage, you can order a Y8 cam, but they don't even tell you which one you'll get. So I'm assuming it's not out yet. Do a search on Google, and you'll have a hard time finding a store that sells the 105300.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i see said the blind man to his deaf girlfriend over the phone!!
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Re: d series cam question-some tech (Sushiboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sushiboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just out of curiosity, why would you do that? Why not just buy the Y8 cam (the ZEX 105100 or 105300)? Is it not out yet? Does it not make as much power? </TD></TR></TABLE>
dont think it's out yet.. i can't wait.. car is dead!!!
dont think it's out yet.. i can't wait.. car is dead!!!
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i get like 250 to the tank???? with no cam... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you serious? Here's how many miles I can drive before filling up around 8.5-9 gallons:
stock----300 miles (~30-32 mpg)
GReddy turbo kit w/ blue box----260 miles (~26-27 mpg)
GReddy turbo kit w/ AFC hack----260 miles (")
I, H, pulley kit----300 miles (~30-32 mpg)
I, H, pulley kit, cam----probably same as above
What kind of mileage do you get? I always calculate it on my phone's calculator after filling up just to see how I'm doing.
i get like 250 to the tank???? with no cam... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you serious? Here's how many miles I can drive before filling up around 8.5-9 gallons:
stock----300 miles (~30-32 mpg)
GReddy turbo kit w/ blue box----260 miles (~26-27 mpg)
GReddy turbo kit w/ AFC hack----260 miles (")
I, H, pulley kit----300 miles (~30-32 mpg)
I, H, pulley kit, cam----probably same as above
What kind of mileage do you get? I always calculate it on my phone's calculator after filling up just to see how I'm doing.
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i called zex about the y8 stage 2 cam. The guy said that it was on backorder, but he thought they would be coming in soon. He said he had about 19 orders and he said he was gonna ship them as he recieves them.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daniel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Are you serious? Here's how many miles I can drive before filling up around 8.5-9 gallons:
stock----300 miles (~30-32 mpg)
GReddy turbo kit w/ blue box----260 miles (~26-27 mpg)
GReddy turbo kit w/ AFC hack----260 miles (")
I, H, pulley kit----300 miles (~30-32 mpg)
I, H, pulley kit, cam----probably same as above
What kind of mileage do you get? I always calculate it on my phone's calculator after filling up just to see how I'm doing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hmmm... i need to change my fuel filter to an si one and see what happens..
Are you serious? Here's how many miles I can drive before filling up around 8.5-9 gallons:
stock----300 miles (~30-32 mpg)
GReddy turbo kit w/ blue box----260 miles (~26-27 mpg)
GReddy turbo kit w/ AFC hack----260 miles (")
I, H, pulley kit----300 miles (~30-32 mpg)
I, H, pulley kit, cam----probably same as above
What kind of mileage do you get? I always calculate it on my phone's calculator after filling up just to see how I'm doing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hmmm... i need to change my fuel filter to an si one and see what happens..
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daniel- how is the skunk cam as far as performance?? does it pull noticably better? whats your impressions of it so far?? i havent heard much first hand experience with this cam so im curious.. do you feel it was worth the money??
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">daniel- how is the skunk cam as far as performance?? does it pull noticably better? whats your impressions of it so far?? i havent heard much first hand experience with this cam so im curious.. do you feel it was worth the money??</TD></TR></TABLE>
I definitely feel it was worth the money. The engine pulls noticeably harder than before ... not as good as when I was boosted but it pulls pretty damn hard for a little SOHC.
The "lag" from idle to 3000 rpm is kind of annoying because it makes quick take-offs difficult, but if I keep my foot planted, there's a nice power surge from 3000 to 5000 rpm. At this point, the powerband dips down a little and then picks back up once VTEC kicks in. At $400, it's not radically expensive, either.
I still run the stock exhaust, so I figured I could get a custom $350 cat-back made that will do little or get a $400 cam that does a lot. Easy choice! I have an appointment for dyno tuning next Friday, so I'm sure my tuner will cure all the dips in the powerband and help the engine use the cam to its max potential.
I definitely feel it was worth the money. The engine pulls noticeably harder than before ... not as good as when I was boosted but it pulls pretty damn hard for a little SOHC.
The "lag" from idle to 3000 rpm is kind of annoying because it makes quick take-offs difficult, but if I keep my foot planted, there's a nice power surge from 3000 to 5000 rpm. At this point, the powerband dips down a little and then picks back up once VTEC kicks in. At $400, it's not radically expensive, either.
I still run the stock exhaust, so I figured I could get a custom $350 cat-back made that will do little or get a $400 cam that does a lot. Easy choice! I have an appointment for dyno tuning next Friday, so I'm sure my tuner will cure all the dips in the powerband and help the engine use the cam to its max potential.
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way cool man. i have my skunk2 stage 1 for my d16z6 sittin in my room. i should have it in with a camgear and new valvesprings within a few weeks. thanks for the info