CTR block?
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CTR block?
what up to all the honda heads!! i'm currently running a b16a2 engine and i'm planning to switch to a CTR block, the block will be a complete block with the pct pistons, r crank etc. my ? is will my b16a2 head bolt up to the CTR block with no piston-valve clearance problems...i also want to use a 2-layer head gasket to up the c/r a little bit...will this also cause any piston-valve clearance problems?
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Re: CTR block? (ek forever guy)
it's all good 'cause the complete CTR block is only gonna cost me 1k...now back to the ? will it 'cause any piston-valve clearance problems
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Re: CTR block? (BlueIntegraBoy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well basically, from what you are saying above, you're going to have a nice stock B16B. So no, there will not be any piston-valve contact.</TD></TR></TABLE>
without the CTR cam, valvetrain, mild factory portet ports, etc....
without the CTR cam, valvetrain, mild factory portet ports, etc....
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Re: CTR block? (blk_eg4)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blk_eg4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's all good 'cause the complete CTR block is only gonna cost me 1k...now back to the ? will it 'cause any piston-valve clearance problems</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why not go with a GSR or LS block instead? Can gain more compression without using PCTs, same price (maybe even cheaper) and most importantly, more displacement/power
Why not go with a GSR or LS block instead? Can gain more compression without using PCTs, same price (maybe even cheaper) and most importantly, more displacement/power
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Re: CTR block? (SkoundrelUSA)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why not go with a GSR or LS block instead? Can gain more compression without using PCTs, same price (maybe even cheaper) and most importantly, more displacement/power</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly what i was thinking but due to this statement,
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blk_eg4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's all good 'cause the complete CTR block is only gonna cost me 1k...now back to the ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
seems like his mind is set to spend his money on that...
Why not go with a GSR or LS block instead? Can gain more compression without using PCTs, same price (maybe even cheaper) and most importantly, more displacement/power</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly what i was thinking but due to this statement,
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blk_eg4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's all good 'cause the complete CTR block is only gonna cost me 1k...now back to the ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
seems like his mind is set to spend his money on that...
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Re: CTR block? (blk_eg4)
from what I remember a b16a and b16b are similar in block design, but interally they're worked differently to create better and smoother flow. If your going to use a b16a head and put it on a b16b block, then no it's won't be the same as ctr. Both parts are unique to ctr especially the head.
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Re: CTR block? (dad0c402)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dad0c402 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from what I remember a b16a and b16b are similar in block design, but interally they're worked differently to create better and smoother flow. If your going to use a b16a head and put it on a b16b block, then no it's won't be the same as ctr. Both parts are unique to ctr especially the head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
They are not similar. A B16B block itself is the exact same as a GSR/ITR block. The only difference is the internals. The reason why the B16B is a 1.6 is because it has a 77mm crank unlike the GSR/ITR that has a 87.2mm crank, the bore on all B-series blocks (except B20) is 81mm. Also the rod lengths and pistons are obviously different.
True. A stock B16A head will not = a B16B, but one with decent cams and a same port job will.
They are not similar. A B16B block itself is the exact same as a GSR/ITR block. The only difference is the internals. The reason why the B16B is a 1.6 is because it has a 77mm crank unlike the GSR/ITR that has a 87.2mm crank, the bore on all B-series blocks (except B20) is 81mm. Also the rod lengths and pistons are obviously different.
True. A stock B16A head will not = a B16B, but one with decent cams and a same port job will.
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Re: CTR block? (BlueIntegraBoy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16 head = CTR head
Both PR3 cast</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes and no...same casting howeverthe valve seats are at a different angle
http://www.ek9.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1
Both PR3 cast</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes and no...same casting howeverthe valve seats are at a different angle
http://www.ek9.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1
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Re: CTR block? (B18CivicEg)
how much is an ITR complete block? because i think 1k for a complete CTR block is a good deal...plus the b16a head is not totally stock, i'm running ITR cams, dual valve springs and retainers...
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Re: CTR block? (blk_eg4)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blk_eg4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much is an ITR complete block? because i think 1k for a complete CTR block is a good deal...plus the b16a head is not totally stock, i'm running ITR cams, dual valve springs and retainers...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Screw the ITR block - go B20V
B20 longblock= 600
B20v kit = 200
Oil pump, water pump, timing belt = 160
DIY labor = free !
Well theres some other stuff too thats optional:
headstuds, girdle, etc.
Screw the ITR block - go B20V
B20 longblock= 600
B20v kit = 200
Oil pump, water pump, timing belt = 160
DIY labor = free !
Well theres some other stuff too thats optional:
headstuds, girdle, etc.
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Re: CTR block? (ViSioNxBoY)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ViSioNxBoY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Screw the ITR block - go B20V
B20 longblock= 600
B20v kit = 200
Oil pump, water pump, timing belt = 160
DIY labor = free !
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wow over priced b20 long block. what about the head? lol
Screw the ITR block - go B20V
B20 longblock= 600
B20v kit = 200
Oil pump, water pump, timing belt = 160
DIY labor = free !
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wow over priced b20 long block. what about the head? lol
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Re: CTR block? (blk_eg4)
why not get a gsr shortblock and run the PCT pistons? you would have a stroked b16b, if i'm right. and since it's out, get it blueprinted and balanced?
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Re: CTR block? (ViSioNxBoY)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ViSioNxBoY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Screw the ITR block - go B20V
B20 longblock= 600
B20v kit = 200
Oil pump, water pump, timing belt = 160
DIY labor = free !
Well theres some other stuff too thats optional:
headstuds, girdle, etc.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think you forgot the aftermarket pistons, rods, rings & hone. Stock B20 piston valve-reliefs don't fit oversize VTEC valves...
Screw the ITR block - go B20V
B20 longblock= 600
B20v kit = 200
Oil pump, water pump, timing belt = 160
DIY labor = free !
Well theres some other stuff too thats optional:
headstuds, girdle, etc.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think you forgot the aftermarket pistons, rods, rings & hone. Stock B20 piston valve-reliefs don't fit oversize VTEC valves...
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Re: CTR block? (iimaginedatt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iimaginedatt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not get a gsr shortblock and run the PCT pistons? you would have a stroked b16b, if i'm right. and since it's out, get it blueprinted and balanced? </TD></TR></TABLE>
i checked the price of a gsr long block and its double for what i'm getting the CTR complete block for...
i checked the price of a gsr long block and its double for what i'm getting the CTR complete block for...
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go to the junk yard and pull an ls block out, you are gonna love the torque alot more. you are going to appriciate your car a lot more. Why you are messing w\ b16s idk, there not fast unless ur racing some grandma in a buik. I made the mistake of going b16 now im saving for a b20b block. Y not go ahead and speend the money for the torque??
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Re: CTR block? (joethejoeman)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by joethejoeman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go to the junk yard and pull an ls block out, you are gonna love the torque alot more. you are going to appriciate your car a lot more. Why you are messing w\ b16s idk, there not fast unless ur racing some grandma in a buik. I made the mistake of going b16 now im saving for a b20b block. Y not go ahead and speend the money for the torque??</TD></TR></TABLE>
all right joe, i'll keep that in mind...thanks for your 2 cents!
all right joe, i'll keep that in mind...thanks for your 2 cents!
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it will be okay..you might as well stroke it to 1.8L I think you can use a GSR or ITR crank & rods.. stroke it to 1.8L...the B16B are much different that a B16a from what I hear...---I could be wrong..