spnej1

Ok. I'm going to make this short but thorough.

Car: 1993 Civic EX with a B18B1 swap

I'm very confused as to what could be causing this. This problem didn't start occurring until I got water in my engine bay.

Car cranks but won't turnover. I've swapped the injectors out, distributor, fuel pressure regulator, main relay, spark plugs, and fuel pump. Fresh grounds for the ECU on the thermostat housing/valve cover.

I tested the distributor out today to see if I had spark. It had spark. The motor reeks of fuel if you crank too much and the spark plugs obviously get saturated in gas.

No CELs. I've reset the ECU. I tested the main relay harness for power. Tested the ECU pins for the injectors/main relay and they omit power. I have power to the TPS/MAP sensors.


Any ideas?

UPDATE

Tested distributor

UPDATE:

New dizzy, wiring harness, injectors, pump, main relay, head gasket, ecu, fpr, tps, map, iacv.

Bad Brian

Cranking and turning over are the same thing! Do you mean that it cranks but does not fire?

spnej1

Yes.

spnej1

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spnej1

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Replaced fuses. Ran voltmeter on fuel injectors/pump. Pump primes, injectors receive power. Replaced FPR.

spnej1

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Bad Brian

Did you put your dist. back on with the rotor shaft turned around 180 degrees from where it should be? How did you get the bay wet and how wet? Did a sudden flood come? Did it roll into a brook?

BoOsTeD_eG6

check coil and ignition module dry moisture from dizzy cap

BoOsTeD_eG6

the distributor you swapped? was it a known working dist.?

slowslow

same thing happened to me when i washed my engine bay. it was my plug wires.

spnej1

Yes it was. I used team integra's walkthrough on Distributor testing..

http://www.team-integra.net/sections...ArticleID=1115

Checked out fine. 16.2 ohm and .8 ohm between said wiring/coil, 12V on both the blue/white black/ylw wires that run to the ICM.

Also pulled off the valve cover. Set crankshaft to TDC, checked camshafts, they are at TDC as well. Dead on timing.

Last thing on the list would be wires, but I don't know how because I tested spark and I see it.

spnej1

I sprayed the tranny/block down with Carb cleaner and a hose. Bad mistake on my part. Then I d/c my injectors as a safe measure for some kids that were driving up and down my block, forgot about it the next day...cranked the car nonstop with them d/c and now I'm in the position I'm in. I swapped damn near everything electrical/fuel based and can't get it started.

As far as the rotor is concerned, It is flat on one side...really is only one way to put it on.

mac_24_seven

iTrader: (1)

Have you pulled a spark plug out and with it still connected, see if there is spark when you turn over?

It sounds like you did.

If so, then it has to be timing, if you're getting fuel. An engine needs fuel +spark+timing to run. Sounds like you have fuel and spark.

I had a bad crank position sensor in my dizzy that messed me up.

angel_i

Check ignition timing. Next check mechanical timing.

GSaura

I am by no means trying to insult your intelligence, but did you check and double check the firing order?

Also, there's a fuse in the underdash fuse box that keeps the engine from starting when it's pulled. Did you check under there as well?

spnej1

Replaced every fuse in the underdash box and interior box yesterday. Every fuse.

Firing order is dead on. From bottom left clockwise, 1342

mac_24_seven

iTrader: (1)

^^^
The ECU fuse. But that cuts the power to the injectors. He wouldnt have any fuel if that was the case.

spnej1

Yes. Pulled a plug out and see spark. I put the crankshaft sprocket at TDC (white line) and looked at my camshaft sprocket arrows. They are dead on (facing up, both identical)

I still continue to smell fuel if I crank for a set period of time. My plugs are saturated if I keep cranking. Doesn't make sense at all.

mac_24_seven

iTrader: (1)

Well they're saturated and fouling because the injectors are pumping fuel into the cylinder and it's not being burnt.

So all you did was wash the bay.. Nothing else? And then it wouldnt crank.. Hmmnnn.

I still say it's a timing issue. Since you say the engine is timed correctly, then it has to be the Dizzy. Even though you checked it, something isnt right. Have you swapped dizzys with a known, working dizzy off a running car?

lo_jack

What color/quality is the spark at the plug?

And yes, if you keep trying to crank you just get gas all over the plugs and nothing will happen.
I had a similar problem with a 97EX and after we replaced everything, checked the timing blah blah blah we were going to have it hauled off. It sat over night, and started the next morning. Plugs were fouled.

spnej1

It's white with alittle orangish/brownish at the end of the spark.

mac_24_seven

iTrader: (1)

Swap out the dizzy with a 100% sure working one.

If it's getting spark and fuel, it's timing.

Bad Brian

I did not ask about the ROTOR going on the shaft, I know it has a flat spot! I asked about the SHAFT itself being put into the head 180 degrees off! Pull off your dist cap, hit the starter until the rotor screw is on top (in position as if you were going to put a new rotor on), now remove your dist. and turn the rotor 180 degrees so that the rotor screw is on the bottom, put the dist. back on, cap it and see if it starts.

Former User

Spark at the plugs should be bright white with only a very slight bluish tinge. The orangish/brownish color of the spark may indicate a weak coil.

The strong smell of fuel may also indicate that the cylinders are flooded, which can cause low compression. Pull the plugs and let the cylinders dry out. Also smell the oil on the dipstick. Does it smell strongly of gasoline? If so, consider replacing the engine oil.

Next test compression of the cylinders.

Also post pictures of the mechanical timing of the cam and crank at TDC1.

spnej1

Ok, finally got the car started.

It kept choking up, so I kept having to jump it. Cranked it about 10 times and it finally started.

Drove it down the street and it was sputting like no other. I figure the plugs are probably fouled or something.

We'll see if it starts tomorrow morning.