sivik2nr

I have a '99 civic hatch, with a D16 and am stuck at this point. Now so far I have 4-2-1 headers (ceramic), CAI(changeable to short ram style) EX cat (damn OBDII ), 2.25"piping all the way back to a straight though muffler, ya know all the basic boltons.... I definately feel a good difference in power... But this is where I don't know what to do. My plan was after winter to install a JR supercharger w/ upgrade kit , new fuel pump, ignition kit, all the goodies. I'm not looking to make THE MOST power I possibly can out of this engine; I just want a healty jump up from where I am now. (dont' want nitrous) The cheapest place I found the Supercharger for was $2399.00.
Now, I see that there are Greddy Turbo kits out there for the EX civics, which run about $1599.00.. That's like a thousand $$ diffference. I really want this kit to be Street legal, and I want reliability. The JR kit has the bypass function, which will save a lot of wear and tear on the engine; it only achieve s full boost under WOT.
Is it tangible to think that I could modify the Greddy turbo it to work , reliably for use as a daily driver? I 'm not too familiar with the install of turbos.... what about the oil feed to the turbo? I mean, do i have to tap in somewhere, and get really indepth to install this? The JR Supercharger seems pretty straight forward and they say that it can be installed in about 8 hours for someone that has somewhat of a grasp on what they are doing.
I'm REALLY leaning toward the SC because of the easier install, i believe, the CARB exemption, the bypass feature, and the power I get will be more linear and increase torque a lot, where honda's lack it.
Can you guys give me some feedback and let me know what you think?
Modding a cheaper turbo to work, vs more straightforward install and fuction of a SC which is more $$.......

Thanks

vtecvoodoo

1.8 swap.

Phantom

JRSC's are alot tougher to install than a turbo kit, and you have no need for a bypass with turbo

eg6ajk

why not do the following: 96+ ex head (sohc vtec) = mini-me, add to that obdI reprogrammed ECU with harness converter, lightened flywheel, I think this will make you much happier, and definatly more relible in the long run....

with these bolt on 20-30whp improvement can be gained....vs a s/c which is about 40-50whp at most.....but cost wise about, 3-4x more expensive....

also a short gear ex tranny is good improvemnt as well...

Slopoke

Go w/ the greddy kit w/ the front mount intercooler.
I have never, ever seen a jrsc equipped car that has even remotley impressed me.

sivik2nr

Anyone else care to give me input?

misledyouth

do full suspension adn make it suepr fun to drive. ust my .02

ALTEAZINcvcc

GET A CHEAPO B16. THEN BUILD ON THAT

.nate

do a swap. then go FI if you still want more power.

EH2DX

this is what i would do:
sell the engine and everything you got on it, add that money to the money you planned to spend on sc/turbo and do an engine swap. B16 is the cheapest option, but i'm pretty sure it will be faster than that DX motor with JRSC. but try to get a B18C. this way your car will be fast and far more reliable than sc/turbo'd DX motor. and later on you can build this engine too.

HXMan

Hmmmm. Seems to me that is you want your car to stay very reliable don't get a turbo kit. An engine swap is pretty easy, and yields great results. Along with plenty more possiblities for the future.

Spade

I agree with HXMan, for the 3000 that you are looking into the Supercharger you can swap a B20 into the car with either a GSR or SI tranny. I have been quoted 3000 a few times. This will give you the reliability of a stock engine with a boat load of torque for any of those B16 swaps you run into.......plus you don't have to wire in anything for the Vtec because it doesn't have it.

kent, clark

Can we swap the new B20s into our cars (160hp, 162ft/lb)?

90accord1

what do you mean the new b20? if yout talking about the 2.4 k series then no.

Spade

Nope, they aren't b20's, they are K24's! The B20 must come from a CRV!

kent, clark

I'm talking about the new CRV...so I guess no?


[Modified by kent, clark, 5:18 PM 12/11/2001]