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10-15-2005, 01:35 PM
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OK. this is second topic about the same thing.
I told that u on that, clutch keeps grinding sound when push clutch pedal to the metal.¨
engine B16A..
OK. Today i took transmission off. What I found was, pressureplate plates were hitting the clutch!!! That explains the noise and why gears didn't go in when engine was running and clutch pedal pressed down.
On driving clutch was slippin and it grapped pretty high
How is this possible?
Setup is:
-Jun light weight flywheel
-new, Stock clutch
-new, stock pressure plate
-slave cylinder from d16z6
system was bleedes 3 times...
NEED HELP ASAP!! :l
Modified by ej2civic at 9:24 AM 10/26/2005
I told that u on that, clutch keeps grinding sound when push clutch pedal to the metal.¨
engine B16A..
OK. Today i took transmission off. What I found was, pressureplate plates were hitting the clutch!!! That explains the noise and why gears didn't go in when engine was running and clutch pedal pressed down.
On driving clutch was slippin and it grapped pretty high
How is this possible?
Setup is:
-Jun light weight flywheel
-new, Stock clutch
-new, stock pressure plate
-slave cylinder from d16z6
system was bleedes 3 times...
NEED HELP ASAP!! :l
Modified by ej2civic at 9:24 AM 10/26/2005
10-16-2005, 05:49 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (ej2civic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ej2civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What I found was, pressureplate plates were hitting the clutch!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Wrong parts or wrong installation?
Wrong parts or wrong installation?
10-16-2005, 07:51 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (Chiovnidca)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiovnidca »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wrong parts or wrong installation?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nope. Everything was bolted right way!
Then all I can doubt is that "pressure bushing" to be wrong?
Shop gave it, so i expected it to be the right one.
Then what about the slave cylinder from d16z6. Is it ok to use that on B16A?
Wrong parts or wrong installation?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nope. Everything was bolted right way!
Then all I can doubt is that "pressure bushing" to be wrong?
Shop gave it, so i expected it to be the right one.
Then what about the slave cylinder from d16z6. Is it ok to use that on B16A?
10-17-2005, 08:00 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (ej2civic)
Damn, no one can help. I guess I have to put transmission back and try again.
Is there any other adjust than the one in the clutch pedal
this sucks
Is there any other adjust than the one in the clutch pedal
this sucks
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10-18-2005, 10:58 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (schlit)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schlit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...are you saying parts of your diaphragm spring are not clearing the clutch? Is the clutch being chewed up along the edges? Throw me a bone</TD></TR></TABLE>
not very good at english, but I think that is happenin'
not very good at english, but I think that is happenin'
10-20-2005, 01:26 PM
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Re: clutch problem.. (ej2civic)
this sucks!!!
Today I got transimmission back. I made sure everything was bolted the right way!
Still does the same thing. Im gettin despered
What the **** is wrong with it??
By the way, havent got answer to "is it ok to use d16z6 slave cylinder"?
Today I got transimmission back. I made sure everything was bolted the right way!
Still does the same thing. Im gettin despered
What the **** is wrong with it??
By the way, havent got answer to "is it ok to use d16z6 slave cylinder"?
10-21-2005, 12:06 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (schlit)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schlit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would think the clutch fork travel between a the B and D series would be different.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
that's what Ive been thinking. But millions of people has done this d16->B16 swap. Are too lazy to write few words?
that's what Ive been thinking. But millions of people has done this d16->B16 swap. Are too lazy to write few words?
10-21-2005, 12:46 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (ej2civic)
Whoa, hold on...
If your pressure plate is rubbing on the clutch disc springs, then you either have an incorrect disk or pressure plate -OR- if you have the correct parts, then the disc is installed backwards or it was rebuilt backwards (If it is not new).
It would be simple to diagnose if you can get a camera and take pictures of both sides of the clutch disc and a picture of the pressure plate. (Plate side)
I once bought a clutch kit that the pressure plate did this (Correctly installed) It was quite frustrating. The damned thing had "Flywheel side" on the wrong side and rubbed the pressure plate like a mother.
Take some pics and we can help you.
While you are at it, take a pic of that flywheel too, and the front of the release bearing. With these I am sure we can get to the bottom of this...
If your pressure plate is rubbing on the clutch disc springs, then you either have an incorrect disk or pressure plate -OR- if you have the correct parts, then the disc is installed backwards or it was rebuilt backwards (If it is not new).
It would be simple to diagnose if you can get a camera and take pictures of both sides of the clutch disc and a picture of the pressure plate. (Plate side)
I once bought a clutch kit that the pressure plate did this (Correctly installed) It was quite frustrating. The damned thing had "Flywheel side" on the wrong side and rubbed the pressure plate like a mother.
Take some pics and we can help you.
While you are at it, take a pic of that flywheel too, and the front of the release bearing. With these I am sure we can get to the bottom of this...
10-23-2005, 03:17 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (Cuda70)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cuda70 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whoa, hold on...
If your pressure plate is rubbing on the clutch disc springs, then you either have an incorrect disk or pressure plate -OR- if you have the correct parts, then the disc is installed backwards or it was rebuilt backwards (If it is not new).
No, my pressure plate aint rubbing clutch disc spring. IT cant be worng parts cause on the clutch reads B16 and pressure plates bolts on nicely.
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It would be simple to diagnose if you can get a camera and take pictures of both sides of the clutch disc and a picture of the pressure plate. (Plate side)
The tranny attached to motor right now. cant take pictures.
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I once bought a clutch kit that the pressure plate did this (Correctly installed) It was quite frustrating. The damned thing had "Flywheel side" on the wrong side and rubbed the pressure plate like a mother.
Take some pics and we can help you.
While you are at it, take a pic of that flywheel too, and the front of the release bearing. With these I am sure we can get to the bottom of this
Flywheel is right and release bearing too.
And remember CLUTCH IS SLIPPING
EXAMPLE PIC:
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If your pressure plate is rubbing on the clutch disc springs, then you either have an incorrect disk or pressure plate -OR- if you have the correct parts, then the disc is installed backwards or it was rebuilt backwards (If it is not new).
No, my pressure plate aint rubbing clutch disc spring. IT cant be worng parts cause on the clutch reads B16 and pressure plates bolts on nicely.
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It would be simple to diagnose if you can get a camera and take pictures of both sides of the clutch disc and a picture of the pressure plate. (Plate side)
The tranny attached to motor right now. cant take pictures.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
I once bought a clutch kit that the pressure plate did this (Correctly installed) It was quite frustrating. The damned thing had "Flywheel side" on the wrong side and rubbed the pressure plate like a mother.
Take some pics and we can help you.
While you are at it, take a pic of that flywheel too, and the front of the release bearing. With these I am sure we can get to the bottom of this
Flywheel is right and release bearing too.
And remember CLUTCH IS SLIPPING
EXAMPLE PIC:
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10-23-2005, 07:43 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (ej2civic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ej2civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
-Jun light weight flywheel
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Maybe the flywheel isn't properly machined?
-Jun light weight flywheel
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Maybe the flywheel isn't properly machined?
10-23-2005, 07:44 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (ej2civic)
Are you saying the fingers of the pressureplare are hitting your clutch?
man if that is the situation, go get another clutch. Sounds like your pressure plate is fucked, there is no way the fingers should be able to touch the clutch, even if the disc is installed backwards. It's possible for springs to rub the PP if improperly installed tho.
Get some pics up, this def sounds like an install problem. Unless you have super powers and forced a D-series clutch onto your b16....
man if that is the situation, go get another clutch. Sounds like your pressure plate is fucked, there is no way the fingers should be able to touch the clutch, even if the disc is installed backwards. It's possible for springs to rub the PP if improperly installed tho.
Get some pics up, this def sounds like an install problem. Unless you have super powers and forced a D-series clutch onto your b16....
10-23-2005, 07:51 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (Chiovnidca)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiovnidca »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Maybe the flywheel isn't properly machined? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dont know about that. Shop gave it to me. Isn't JUN products still quality parts...
Maybe the flywheel isn't properly machined? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dont know about that. Shop gave it to me. Isn't JUN products still quality parts...
10-23-2005, 08:00 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (BigJ5)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigJ5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you saying the fingers of the pressureplare are hitting your clutch?
man if that is the situation, go get another clutch. Sounds like your pressure plate is fucked, there is no way the fingers should be able to touch the clutch, even if the disc is installed backwards. It's possible for springs to rub the PP if improperly installed tho.
Get some pics up, this def sounds like an install problem. Unless you have super powers and forced a D-series clutch onto your b16....
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Yes Im saying that the fingers are hittin clutch disc. When you look at the clutch disc u can see worn circle(to place that i drawed to pic) that pressure plates fingers have done to it.
And no I havent installed clutch disc improperly.
Everything was bolted up by following service manual.
Oh, and by the way. clutch packet is made by LUK.
Shop is going to call tomorrow(monday) to LUK and ask is this possible..
man if that is the situation, go get another clutch. Sounds like your pressure plate is fucked, there is no way the fingers should be able to touch the clutch, even if the disc is installed backwards. It's possible for springs to rub the PP if improperly installed tho.
Get some pics up, this def sounds like an install problem. Unless you have super powers and forced a D-series clutch onto your b16....
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Yes Im saying that the fingers are hittin clutch disc. When you look at the clutch disc u can see worn circle(to place that i drawed to pic) that pressure plates fingers have done to it.
And no I havent installed clutch disc improperly.
Everything was bolted up by following service manual.
Oh, and by the way. clutch packet is made by LUK.
Shop is going to call tomorrow(monday) to LUK and ask is this possible..
10-24-2005, 05:25 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (ej2civic)
hmm
I have to send the clutch packet to LUK. That will take a long time
Shop gives me little used spoon clutch disc and pressure plate for good price. I think Im going to get that, since i need my car to driveable ASAP '
Hope it helps!
I have to send the clutch packet to LUK. That will take a long time
Shop gives me little used spoon clutch disc and pressure plate for good price. I think Im going to get that, since i need my car to driveable ASAP
'Hope it helps!
10-25-2005, 10:01 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (schlit)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schlit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the shop gave you a clutch that was incorrect in the first place, why are you paying them for a replacement? It sounds like you're getting ripped off big time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
How can it be wrong clutch if it bolts on very nicely etc. ?
When I give that clutch packet back to the shop. They will send it to importer and they will check is there anything wrong. If they don't find anything from it then they send it to LUK!!! And just guess how long it will take to get my car fixed?!
If they find something is wrong with it. Ill get my money back.
No. Im not getting ripped of big time. I just want my car fixed ASAP!!
What Im afraid of is that, When I put that spoon clutch disc, pressure plate and release bearing and It still does the same thing
Im gonna post pics in an hour. stay tuned
How can it be wrong clutch if it bolts on very nicely etc. ?
When I give that clutch packet back to the shop. They will send it to importer and they will check is there anything wrong. If they don't find anything from it then they send it to LUK!!! And just guess how long it will take to get my car fixed?!
If they find something is wrong with it. Ill get my money back.
No. Im not getting ripped of big time. I just want my car fixed ASAP!!
What Im afraid of is that, When I put that spoon clutch disc, pressure plate and release bearing and It still does the same thing
Im gonna post pics in an hour. stay tuned
10-25-2005, 11:58 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (ej2civic)
My money is on the clutch disk being installed improperly. You can bolt it up wrong and never know it till you push in the clutch. Pull the transmission and flip the clutch disk over and reinstall the transmsiion. If its the right part then that should fix it. But if you have driven it much installed wrong it may have damaged the pressure palte and/or the clutch disk.
10-26-2005, 07:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tpr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My money is on the clutch disk being installed improperly. You can bolt it up wrong and never know it till you push in the clutch. Pull the transmission and flip the clutch disk over and reinstall the transmsiion. If its the right part then that should fix it. But if you have driven it much installed wrong it may have damaged the pressure palte and/or the clutch disk.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hah, that is your money. Im not that stupid to put clutch disc upside down, lol. Guess you are
Oh and If you look at the picture. You should realise that clutch disc was installed right...
Modified by ej2civic at 9:20 AM 10/26/2005
Hah, that is your money. Im not that stupid to put clutch disc upside down, lol. Guess you are
Oh and If you look at the picture. You should realise that clutch disc was installed right...
Modified by ej2civic at 9:20 AM 10/26/2005
10-26-2005, 08:22 AM
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Re: clutch problem.. (ej2civic)
OK.
Just got the transmission out again for a second time.
Here are the pics
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Just got the transmission out again for a second time.
Here are the pics
Modified by ej2civic at 9:36 AM 10/26/2005
Modified by ej2civic at 9:45 AM 10/26/2005