Blk00EJ8

Ok, I'm really stuck now as to how to resolve this. I have the typical "can't get it into gear while car is running" syndrome. It started one day when I was driving home and it was difficult, but still possible to shift into gear. I took extra care to shift properly.

The next day I wasn't able to shift it into gear at all when the engine was running. The clutch slave was going out and my fluid level had dropped. I order and replace the clutch master and clutch slave cylinders, properly adjust the pedal height, and bleed the system. All is well and I drive it all day with no problem.

Next day I can't get it into gear again -- $#&^%! I was pissed. I double check everything again and it seems fine. I needed to replace the throwout bearing so I figure what the hell, I might as well do this now. So I do that and reassemble everything. Clutch hydraulic system is bled again but for some reason the system doesn't gravity bleed like it used to. I thought this was odd.

I wind up taking the entire hydraulic system off again to inspect it -- master, slave, lines, etc. It seems to be fine, no build-up of crap, and it seems to bleed alright if the slave isn't bolted up to the bell housing with the pushrod pushing on the throwout fork. Or at least I think it bled alright. I bought some cheap DOT4 fluid to just flush through the clutch lines and it seems to be fine.

Basically the clutch isn't fully disengaging, and that's my problem. I was able to gravity bleed the hydraulic system before and now it doesn't respond like it did before. Should I suspect the new slave cylinder again? Additionally, I'm 99% sure they are, but humor me on this one... all B series clutch masters and clutch slaves are interchangeable, correct?

Mista Bone

replace the clutch, springs popping out of the disc, dragging on the flywheel bolts.....

Blk00EJ8

I took a look at the clutch surface and pressure plate when I had the tranny off for the throwout bearing replacement and they both looked fine. It's an ACT clutch, only 8k miles on it! The whole clutch kit and flywheel were new when installed...

Mista Bone

did you look at the springs?

Blk00EJ8

When I said clutch surface, I meant the entire disc. Sorry that wasn't clear... and yes, the springs looked fine.

Blk00EJ8

evening bump for a solution

97Ej6mike

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Could that possibly lead to them stripping/wearing down the bolts, making them hard, or even near impossible to remove?

Targa250R

The fact that it worked fine for a day leads me to believe that the new slave and/or master are faulty. Where did you purchase them? Remans or new?

Blk00EJ8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The fact that it worked fine for a day leads me to believe that the new slave and/or master are faulty. Where did you purchase them? Remans or new?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Both brand new from hondaautomotiveparts.com, and neither appears to be leaking now. I know it's possible, but it's not often at all that a brand new part fails in 24 hours

mikeycivic

did you try to adjust your clutch pedal?

Blk00EJ8

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mikeycivic

you cant adjust an aftermarket clutch to stock height, I just put in a 6 puck that would not go in gear when the pedal was to the floor, I let it out 1/2 in and shifted smooooth, you need to adjust the rod on the back of your clutch pedal

Blk00EJ8

Never stated I adjusted it to stock height... I actually have the pushrod of the master cylinder threaded as far out as it's going to go without it actually falling off.

Blk00EJ8

up

Blk00EJ8

up again, need a suggestion

br0nx finest

bump for you, I'm having the same problem!

thing is (and I'm wondering if you saw this on yours), in the morning there's always a small puddle of clutch fluid from directly below my slave cylinder.

Targa250R

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by br0nx finest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bump for you, I'm having the same problem!

thing is (and I'm wondering if you saw this on yours), in the morning there's always a small puddle of clutch fluid from directly below my slave cylinder. </TD></TR></TABLE>
If you're tightening the bleeder enough, and the hydraulic line fitting isn't leaking due to improper installation, then the part is faulty.

Blk00EJ8

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If you're tightening the bleeder enough, and the hydraulic line fitting isn't leaking due to improper installation, then the part is faulty.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea, ditto on that -- sounds faulty. Mine doesn't leak at all. I'm almost disappointed that it doesn't leak because at least then I'd have an explanation for it.

br0nx finest

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If you're tightening the bleeder enough, and the hydraulic line fitting isn't leaking due to improper installation, then the part is faulty.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well i never changed mine, just did swap last week and it started leaking. also, 1st gear is hard to engage anything past first few mins of driving.

IASI2010

i had the exact same prob *** you and i said expletive it and let it sit for 2 or 3 days and it fixed itself i think i had stretched the calbes in the tranny out or bent a linkage.

Blk00EJ8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by br0nx finest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i never changed mine, just did swap last week and it started leaking. also, 1st gear is hard to engage anything past first few mins of driving. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I had the same problem with 1st but I dealt with it. I drove it for 5 months like that with no other significant issue though. Maybe a bent shift fork..? I effin hope not...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IASI2010 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had the exact same prob *** you and i said expletive it and let it sit for 2 or 3 days and it fixed itself i think i had stretched the calbes in the tranny out or bent a linkage.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No offense but I highly doubt that the cables returned back to normal or the linkage unbent itself. Mine's been sitting for 2 months... still hasn't fixed itself. I'm not happy about that time frame.

ToNY2012

my clutch in my da did the same thign 2 of the springs poped out on me one day driving home from work..

Blk00EJ8

how many miles did you have on the clutch?

Mista Bone

average is 60k miles and springs start poppin.

Blk00EJ8

any other possibilities?