DylanGSR_eh9

My engine starts and then stalls and rotates backwards (after the engine warms up).

I checked my timing and distributor and everything is tip top shape and the motor still has the same problem! My next option is an ecu, any help or suggestions would be awesome!

2 videos showing engine moving backwards. (Transmission is in 1st gear the whole time.)

B serious

iTrader: (1)

Op...that engine is not going backwards for anywhere near 1-3 seconds.

Anyway, I've seen that condition before. Your distributor is most likely 180° off. I'm guessing you used a little force to bolt it to the head?

Spin the engine COUNTERCLOCKWISE by hand (never turn it clockwise) so that it is at TDC on the crank and so that the cam gear marks line up to each other and the cams say UP facing up.

Does ALL of that line up?

If yes, then remove the distrubutor cap. Which cylinder post is the rotor pointing at? It SHOULD be pointing at the cylinder 1 post.

Is there moisture in the cap? Turn the motor by hand again...does the distributor rotor turn properly or is the rotor driver broken?

Auxillary question: are you SURE AS HELL that the plug wires are correctly located?

Have you tried swapping MAP and TPS plugs? This is almost for sure not the issue, but could compound it.

I'm almost sure that your firing order is wrong. Do you have a diagram of firing order for a B series distributor? Post a pic of how your wires are located. Use MS paint to label the wires' cylinder number.

**when I say COUNTERCLOCKWISE, I mean if you're looking at the motor directly from the cam gear side.

Former User

General thread comment --> Keep all responses here focused on the technical issue described in the first post and shown in the videos.

tony_2018

What ecu are you currently running? More info on the cheesy swap?

Edit: Okay, first off why the hell are you in first gear? Second, why are you in gear in a small closed area? Third, jack up the car and put it on jack stands so the wheels can spin freely and than start the car and make another video.

DylanGSR_eh9

If you say my 1st thread nobody believed my motor was rotating backwards so I apparently had to prove it by leaving the car in 1st to show what's happening, and I was in the shop, and I'll make another bid soon then.

DylanGSR_eh9

I have a obd1 p72 ecu and the swap is all stock except header (last owner) b18c1 with a b16 transmission

DylanGSR_eh9

I'm about 99% positive my timing and plugs are all in the right places, and I had a few credible people check it as well, I tried to rotate the distributor 180° and it doesn't seem to go in any other way. Could my ecu be the culprit?

tony_2018

Crank it again and keep your foot on the gas pedal just a little bit, don't rev it high or else you'll end up suffocating yourself in a closed building...........thats why I ask why are you starting a car in a closed building.

turbohatch96y7

iTrader: (15)

Timing is off. '

Eg.ls.turbo

If u can post a pic of the timing marks lined up and spark plug order.

Eg.ls.turbo

I had my brothers Jdm gsr a tooth off timed and it sounded the same as the video u posted

94_civic_dx

it definitley seems like timing is off i would recheck that and make sure firing order is correct also

B serious

iTrader: (1)

Did you try or check any of the stuff I bothered to type out?

tony_2018

Fix link

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tony_2018

I'll ask my question in a different way since you never got back to me, if you give it gas does it stay running?


edit: Alright, is the check engine light working? Also make sure you didn't swap the map and tps sensors. Another test to try is keep the car on all jackstands, e-brake cable up, and shift through all gears as if you were driving. Keep in mind that the car is on jackstands so it will accelerate pretty fast.

DylanGSR_eh9

If it's cold it runs fine even if you give it gas or not. Once it warms up it usually idles ok but when you give it gas it stalls. When that happens it doesn't want to start again. But if you leave it overnight and it's cold it will start right up. That's why I wonder if the ecu is causing problems when it's warm.

Former User

When the engine is warm and idling, have you jumped the service connector, hooked up a timing light, and checked the ignition timing?

tony_2018

Hmm....Sounds like the knock sensors trying to compensate?

tony_2018

If the car idles than it shouldn't be an ecu issue. Does the check engine light work?

DylanGSR_eh9

Yes it was at 14 degrees btdc for the videos

DylanGSR_eh9

The check engine light is on, but the only codes are oxygen sensor and vss. The oxygen sensor hasn't been hooked up since we got the car, and it ran fine for years that way.