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civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

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Old 06-29-2011, 01:11 PM
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Default civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

civic eg has no codes, stutters from 1.5k- 4k rpm especially if accelerating slow, bogs if i floor it. when feathering the throttle, it back fires. no smoke.
put a new o2 sensor in and it turned black

im thinking too rich,

any ideas?

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IACV is clean
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Timing?
Old 07-09-2011, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

i havent timed it, but ive adjusted the dizzy and it still stutters no matter what position... sounds ghetto, but its what i have to work with. I'm replacing the cat next and then going from there
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There's mechanical timing as well. Check both.
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

I was backfiring as well (d15b7) check your plugs make sure there gapped right!
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

That brings up this question. When did you last do a FULL tune up?
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

Originally Posted by grumblemarc
That brings up this question. When did you last do a FULL tune up?
What he said!

Plugs,wires,cap/rotor, is your radiator full? Loss of pressure may cause bogging keep trouble shooting lose ground wire? Don't give up!
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

changed the plugs, it runs a little bit smoother, but the plugs are fouled with fuel... it seems its dumping fuel in. I changed it to a ek DX header/ cat and now it blows smoke .... Im guessing from fuel saturation

I have NO codes.
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I changed it to a ek DX header/ cat
Why? Now would be a good time to mention what else is not stock to this car. maybe a little back story as well. Actually should have done this in post number 1.
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

I changed the header because its a known good cat... the one before is not known if its good.

motor is bone stock

i think my problem is specific to fuel dumping. it gets horrible gas milage as well --- probably due to the fuel dumping
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

put another stock P06 ecu in and same symptoms.

why would this thing be running SO RICH
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

I've been having the same symptoms and I can't adjust the timing either so I move the dizzy around. I gotta get a lower timing cover then Im timing it asap. I'm like 98% that's what it is
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

you think its a timing issue?

I have adjusted my theory to it being a Spark issue.
I have new plugs and cap

maybe the coil may be dying
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

Do a complete tune up. Check BOTH ignition and mechanical timing. What color is the spark?
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

Originally Posted by grumblemarc
Do a complete tune up. Check BOTH ignition and mechanical timing. What color is the spark?
The bogging sounds just like my old Del Sol when I had the timing belt a tooth off.
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

it looks like the timing is on. I have the white mark lined up with the pointer and the "up" is lined up with the distributor ear, so my guess is its a bad dizzy
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

And the mechanical timing? You seem to be avoiding that like the plague.
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

i dont have a timing gun to time it, and i dont think it would act so horrible no matter how advanced or retarded i moved the dizzy
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

Post #16 seems to suggest otherwise. You don't need a timing gun for mechanical timing. Check the FAQs for How-To's.

And AGAIN, when was the last FULL tune up you've done. Plugs and wires are not a full tune up.
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

post #17 discusses how I lined up the crank with the cam
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Last full tune up?
This is like pulling teeth.
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

to give you an idea, the last time the car was driven was about 2 years ago
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

Jeez. Is the old gas still in the car as well?
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Default Re: civic eg, bog at low rpm, stutter/ missfire & sometimes backfires

yes, however, the car ran that way before


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