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Old 01-09-2004, 02:14 PM
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1998 Civic Sedan with 80 Km. Dealer wants to replace engine because there is excessive wear on piston bore. The engine will be supplied at no charge although the warranty expired. However, labour is extra at $1400. The acceleration pinging goes away when the engine is warming up.

Is the replacement necessary?
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Default Re: Civic: Acceleration Rattle When Cold (wlem)

are you using shitty gas? you might be detonating. id run that thing till it blew if you have a spare motor. and do not pay a dealer to install it. im sure someone will do it in your are for about 500-700.
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holy hell!!! 1400 in labor? damn, thats a lot.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soccaian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">holy hell!!! 1400 in labor? damn, thats a lot.

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yeap, dealers suck

only thing is, he is getting the engine for free from the dealer, so i think they HAVE to install it.
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Default Re: Civic: Acceleration Rattle When Cold (wlem)

Wait, what's rattling when you accelerate? The motor or your exhaust?
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Default Re: Civic: Acceleration Rattle When Cold (wlem)

Mine rattles but its because the fuel pump cover is loose and theres no back seats.
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maybe it just needs a valve adjustment
Old 01-09-2004, 07:57 PM
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It's coming from the engine. The Honda dealer mechanic says that there is too much wear with the cylinder walls hence the excessive rattle from the pistons.
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Default Re: Civic: Acceleration Rattle When Cold (wlem)

Unless the dealer has a scope to get inside the cylinders (though the spark plug hole) I dont see how they can say excessive wear. Most likely Id just say its probably the valves. I know mine rattle if I get close to 4k when its cold. Like really cold. But then I dont know what kind of sound its making either.
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It's coming from the engine.
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Default Re: Civic: Acceleration Rattle When Cold (wlem)

Hey Wlem, just curious but what dealer is telling you this???

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The dealer is Parkway Honda. In the past they have been alright. Now I wonder if it has to do with their renovations to their service area. Hmmm.
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the dealership is lazy AND very busy at the same time, they don't have all day to do little ****. they'd rather replace something than spend the time fixing it. easier for them at the end of the day.
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Default Re: Civic: Acceleration Rattle When Cold (wlem)

Here was the resolution to my problem.

After a lengthy discussion with Honda Canada, they decided to cover the cost of the short block replacement and the labour.

Should I treat this engine as new and observe the break-in parameters? Are there other items to watch for, like the AC?

Thank you for your comments and encouragement.

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Default Re: Civic: Acceleration Rattle When Cold (wlem)

IF the engine is new, then yes... and even if it wasnt, id say yes... lol, just for a few days to check... but make sure it is new and take it easy as any new motor, frequent oil changes etc...
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According to Honda, the engine is a remanufactured engine. So, it is not a brand new engine since the model year is over, 1998.

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