himsweet66six

ok guys i just bought a 98 honda civic sedan auto. i want to get the 99-00 front bumper on there. can i just get the bumper and swap them? also same with the head lights can i get the ek9 type r head lights and just swap them in? thanks for any help.

also down the road is it possible to swap a auto gsr in there without any problems? thanks for any help.

where can i find a place that sells lots of honda parts?

Davus

Unfortunately, the 99-00 bumper will not line up with the 96-98 fenders, headlight, hood, and grille. You would have to do a full conversion just for the bumper, which is actually feasible.
"EK9"/"Type R" headlights are available for 96-98 and 99-00 separately, so you'd have to buy the headlights for whichever front end you have at the time.

Swapping in an automatic GSR motor would probably be an issue, I've never heard of it being done. Then again, it could be as simple as any other swap, just not done due to the nature of the GSR. You'd have to source an Integra tran*smission most likely?

http://www.HondaAutomotiveParts.com for Majestic Honda
http://www.myhondapartsstore.com/ for some place that calls themselves "My Honda Parts Store"
Those two sites are dea*lership providers and sell authentic OEM parts (at a price, of coures).

E: vvvvvvv lol, beaten


Modified by Davus at 4:55 AM 10/5/2008

EcivicG

nvm covered most of it

himsweet66six

thanks alot for the information. i thought that a full conversion would have to be done but wasnt sure. i was on jdm land last night and saw the differance healights for the differant years. i might try and get some of the older headlights. is there fog lights for my year? or is just the newer version with the openings on the bottom?

is there a differance with the rear ends? i think those are the same i beleive.


sorry for all the questions. im new to the forum. i spent most of my time on clubrsx.

94EG8

In regards to your GS-R swap idea, don't, please see this link https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2364737 If you don't mind swapping in a manual tranny (which is actually really easy, and hardly adds any difficulty to the swap) then do a GS-R + manual tranny.

himsweet66six

what about an automatic b16 swap?

94EG8

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Nope, A B16 will have exactly the same problems as a GS-R, any B-series will, and in case you were wondering an H-series would be even worse. The only real, viable swap option I can see here would be a D16Y8 from an EX. Honestly for the little bit of extra effort involved it makes far more sense IMO to convert to a manual and do a GS-R swap. I've done a couple of auto to manual swaps on civics, on its own its really not very hard, if you're already doing an engine swap anyway then it adds very little to the swap.

himsweet66six

yea i know but the thing is i want my girlfriend to be able to drive it. i was searching and found automatic b16's i would think it would be a straight forward swap as long as it comes with the automatic ecu

just.me.ek5

you can always do a b16 with a automatic LS tranny. it'll be slow but it'll work

94EG8

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Its not. You have to cut the frame rail to get it to clear the automatic transmission case. You have to fabricate your own mounts as none exist. And as an added bonus you now have a wiring nightmare to take care of, you need to wire in a TCM to control the automatic transmission. Whereas with a manual B-series swap the transmission fits. You can use all OEM honda mounts and you don't have to deal with a bunch of wiring. You're far better off to just teach your girlfriend to drive stick. Contrary to popular belief girls can and do drive standards, some of them are even on Honda-Tech.


Modified by 94EG8 at 9:25 AM 10/7/2008

himsweet66six

lol i wish man. if it wasnt for her i would have bought a differant car. this is just a daily driver but was curious about an automatic swap. man that sucks though. maybe ill throw a blower on it or something lol.

can i do an ls swap? would it be worth it? what us the hp rating on those compared to my non vtec single

94EG8

Like I said earlier, B-series swaps can all be lumped together for the most part. Blower isn't worth doing IMO automatic or standard, turbo will work ok, but you will have a tendency to go through automatic transmissions. There just isn't much in the way of options for automatic civics if you're looking for more power.

himsweet66six

i guess the best i can do is the vtec swap. what do i need for that to work? just swap the motors and ecu?

well were can i get ferio parts? they seem hard to find. i already looked at jdmland.com just trying to see if there is anything else

xferioeg9x

Try h-motors on line

94EG8

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Yeah, just make sure you use a '96 - '98 automatic D16Y8 Intake manifold (they are different from the manual version, and '99 - '00 manifolds use so sort of air injection the the '96 - '98 manifolds don't)

NOFX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by himsweet66six &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks alot for the information. i thought that a full conversion would have to be done but wasnt sure. i was on jdm land last night and saw the differance healights for the differant years. i might try and get some of the older headlights. is there fog lights for my year? or is just the newer version with the openings on the bottom?

is there a differance with the rear ends? i think those are the same i beleive.


sorry for all the questions. im new to the forum. i spent most of my time on clubrsx. </TD></TR></TABLE>
the rears on coupes and sedans are different from '96-'98 compared with '99-'00. Taillights and rear bumpers, and trunks for sedans. Hatches only have a different set of taillights.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its not. You have to cut the frame rail to get it to clear the automatic transmission case. You have to fabricate your own mounts as none exist. And as an added bonus you now have a wiring nightmare to take care of, you need to wire in a TCM to control the automatic transmission. Whereas with a manual B-series swap the transmission fits. You can use all OEM honda mounts and you don't have to deal with a bunch of wiring. You're far better off to just teach your girlfriend to drive stick. Contrary to popular belief girls can and do drive standards, some of them are even on Honda-Tech.


Modified by 94EG8 at 9:25 AM 10/7/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is a European EK4 automatic (B16A hatch/sedan), but I don't know how it manages to get the automatic transmission to fit within the vehicle.

It's not a common car (only one country IIRC), and without seeing a lot of photos it's not easy to tell how it fits.

himsweet66six

there is an ek4 auto b16? tight i wonder how it does fit then. there has to be an ECU for it then. so if i could get the motor with the mounts too it and the ecu everything else should fall in if it fits?

94EG8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by himsweet66six &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so if i could get the motor with the mounts too it and the ecu everything else should fall in if it fits? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You'll still have clearance issues. Its my understanding that the frame rails and cross member on automatic b-series cars are different than our own.

NOFX

Even if it did just drop in, sourcing those mounts would be a huge pain in the ***.