choices.. they suck
 

ok so heres the thing.. i got hold of a ITR motor and thinking about boosting it and putting in it my sol.. but latly i have been thinking it has such a high CR that i could only boost small.. maybe 6 PSI at the max.. 10 may be pushing it.. and im wanting 15+ i dont think the ITR can handle that with its high CR alrdy unless i run race fuel.. so i was thinking maybe sell for a D16z6 and build that? or maybe a LS/vtec. so lets make this fun and see what kind of options you guys may have.. remeber im not scared of "Frankenstien" motors.. or a ZC


Modified by projekt-sol at 4:43 PM 2/6/2008

Re: choices.. they suck (projekt-sol)
 

My head aches... You can run as much boost as you want as long as you have the octane fuel high enough to prevent detonation and a motor to sustain the HP/TQ. Talk with an expert in this or with an experienced tuner to see what you can do with this motor you have already. BTW -- You didn't even say what kinda setup/TURBO you'd be using -- that makes a huge difference when talking in PSI. It's not all about PSI.. I'd go with a built d16z6 then boosting it -- cheap to replace if it dies. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: choices.. they suck (projekt-sol)
 

wheres the choice "keep itr motor and go n/a" https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emdgust.gif

Re: choices.. they suck (Ej Girl)
 

It's not there because he wants something quick. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emdgust.gif

Re: choices.. they suck (Ej Girl)
 

gt28rs .83 turbo.. or even a .57 trim.. and N.A is not a option.. but it is open to add options too so ad what you want.. im trying to get ideas..

Re: choices.. they suck (projekt-sol)
 

If you can get ahold of a d16z6 easily and sell the ITR, do it. Spending around $1,000 dollars on building the motor can yield 300whp on pump gas with a t3/t4 turbo .50 trim, .63AR

Re: choices.. they suck (projekt-sol)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projekt-sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so heres the thing.. i got hold of a ITR motor and thinking about boosting it and putting in it my sol.. but latly i have been thinking it has such a high CR that i could only boost small.. maybe 6 PSI at the max.. 10 may be pushing it.. and im wanting 15+ i dont think the ITR can handle that with its high CR alrdy unless i run race fuel.. so i was thinking maybe sell for a D16z6 and build that? or maybe a LS/vtec. so lets make this fun and see what kind of options you guys may have.. remeber im not scared of "Frankenstien" motors.. or a ZC

Modified by projekt-sol at 4:43 PM 2/6/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>


Why would you pass on an ITR motor?? and downgrade to a different motor just so you can run boost? Keep the ITR engine, find out which turbo your going to use first. Cause you can't throw boost #'s w/o knowing what turbo is being used. Frankly if your scared because of the high CR pistons. Purchase some low CR pistons, then boost it. Then get it tuned with a standalone ems, with the right application you can boost an ITR engine.

You can boost any honda motor regardless of how high its CR is. Look at S2000's or NSX's, people boost them left to right, because they do their research. They determine what their power goals are, what size turbo to use, then tune and build it accordingly. NSX or S2000 owners don't ditch their motors and go a different route because their afraid of boosting their motor's. In fact they boost the hell out of them and create a killer monster.

Re: choices.. they suck (VTECth1s)
 

buy a b18b and boost it https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif
that's what i'm doing.
ls-vtec will come later but why not have some cheap good fun in the meantime?

Re: choices.. they suck (VTECth1s)
 

are the itr cams good for boost?

Re: choices.. they suck (95dxsir2)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95dxsir2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are the itr cams good for boost?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've heard and read, that n/a cam's perform better then turbo cam's in a boosted application. I can't recall why, but someone with more experience in that area, should chime in.

Re: choices.. they suck (VTECth1s)
 

the ITR motor came in a CRX i bought for 800 buks.. pulled the ITR motor.. ended up being OBD2 99 type R resold the crx shell for 500 bucks.. ( dont flame i know i coulda got more) so picked up the ITR motor for 300 bucks.. what ever i do.. sell it or keep it its going to be profit..

High compression is a poor excuse for a bad tune(r)

The gt28rs is kinda small for the itr...you will run out of air up top. A GT30 or GT35 is better

Re: choices.. they suck (projekt-sol)
 

i have yet to see any goal or info on the purpose of the car in this thread... ex. hp goal, time goal? street use? track use? without at least a hp goal your not going to get much helpful feedback

keep the ITR!!!!!!! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

Re: (groundzerocivic)
 

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not exactly the best advice until we know goals here.... if going for a 400+ hp build the motor would have to have at least forged internals so the itr internals wouldnt help there. IMO itr motor's are good for going na. Once you want to turbo with 400+ numbers the itr isnt really a advantage.

Re: (trav95civic)
 

your right sorry i missed putting them in.. there isisnt really a time dead line.. would like to have it built by this summer but if not i wont die.. i would like to have 300-400 HP anywhere inbetween will be acceptable its going to be a weekend toy.. not a DD but just something to mess around with.. and i wanna run a Turbo and not A SC.. as i like turbos better.. ya the SC dont have much lag like the turbo..

Re: (projekt-sol)
 

IMO superchargers are a waste of money. Compared to the price of a turbo setup you can get way more hp out of a turbo. If your wanting a reliable turbo setup you can beat on then i'd def. go with forged internals. Leaves ya room to get more power down the road also. With that said the stock itr pistons and rods wont be a advantage.

If i was you id do one of two things. 1. sell the itr motor or just the shortblock. With the money you make off the longblock/shortblock buy a ls block. Mate it to either a b16/gsr/(or if you just sell the shortblock) the left over itr head. This will let you pocket a little more money to help out on the internals.

Or option 2. Keep the itr motor, swap out internals for a set of forged pistons/rods (basically pointless to have the itr block at this point) then build from there.

Re: (trav95civic)
 

i was thinking about that.. pull the ITR head and sell the rest.. then buy a LS block and mate the ITR head to the LS block would it be a type r lsvtec then?? lol but then boost that and build it with forged internals.. so i could run a bigger turbo and more boost with right tune and what not..

Re: (projekt-sol)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projekt-sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was thinking about that.. pull the ITR head and sell the rest.. then buy a LS block and mate the ITR head to the LS block would it be a type r lsvtec then?? lol but then boost that and build it with forged internals.. so i could run a bigger turbo and more boost with right tune and what not.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

meh, i guess u could tell the kids in the parkin lot that to get their attention https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif
But sounds like you got a plan. Now just find a na guy to buy your block and your in business https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: (trav95civic)
 

need to get alot of things underway then.. so sounds like ITR head with Ls block.. should have a ls vtec motor going here shortly then.. with forged internals..

ls vtec on boost is a monster


if done right