chiton,helms,haynes,or honda?
10-30-2005, 03:58 PM
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chiton,helms,haynes,or honda?
whats the best most detailed manual?? chilton,haynes,helms or honda manual from honda dealership? I seen a post like this about 3months ago, but searched and couldnt find any info. thanks.
10-30-2005, 04:14 PM
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Re: chiton,helms,haynes,or honda? (Civicse)
i asked this same ? about 6 months ago and ordered a helms. it is the oem manual. i work for an automotive group that owns a honda dealership and i sometimes work for honda and that manual i bought from helms is the same manuals we have in the shop.
10-30-2005, 07:30 PM
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yeap, helms and honda are the same thing. Chilton's and haynes are great for basic ****, but they don't give you too much details on serious engine work. I barely found the torque specs when doing a head gasket on my bro's camry with one.
10-30-2005, 07:36 PM
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Re: chiton,helms,haynes,or honda? (paul vang)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by paul vang »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeap, helms and honda are the same thing. Chilton's and haynes are great for basic ****, but they don't give you too much details on serious engine work. I barely found the torque specs when doing a head gasket on my bro's camry with one. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Same thing I was going to say. IF you are doing basic ****, then the Haynes or Chiltons will be great. If you want to get more in depth, Helms is the only way to go. I have both and I only use my Helms now
The best thing in my opinion is the wiring. The helms breks down wiring on one of the pages with wire color, ECU pinout # and what it does. The wiring in the Haynes is laughable...useful but very confusing. The Helms has the confusing (confusing to me) as well, but it also has the easy to use and read breakdown I mentioned before
Same thing I was going to say. IF you are doing basic ****, then the Haynes or Chiltons will be great. If you want to get more in depth, Helms is the only way to go. I have both and I only use my Helms nowThe best thing in my opinion is the wiring. The helms breks down wiring on one of the pages with wire color, ECU pinout # and what it does. The wiring in the Haynes is laughable...useful but very confusing. The Helms has the confusing (confusing to me) as well, but it also has the easy to use and read breakdown I mentioned before
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10-30-2005, 07:49 PM
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Re: chiton,helms,haynes,or honda? (specv5150)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by specv5150 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IF you are doing basic ****, then the Haynes or Chiltons will be great. If you want to get more in depth, Helms is the only way to go. I have both and I only use my Helms now</TD></TR></TABLE>
Same here, except i wouldnt even recommend you wasting money on the Haynes or Chiltons because
a) so few pictures
b) instructions NOT detailed
c) torque specs hard to find
I have all three and those two suck a ******* ***. Dont even waste your money. If all you do is oil changes, still get the Helms.
Same here, except i wouldnt even recommend you wasting money on the Haynes or Chiltons because
a) so few pictures
b) instructions NOT detailed
c) torque specs hard to find
I have all three and those two suck a ******* ***. Dont even waste your money. If all you do is oil changes, still get the Helms.
10-30-2005, 07:54 PM
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Re: chiton,helms,haynes,or honda? (FuNkDrSpOt)
umm this is a really stupid question but is this the helms manual for a 1994 honda civic CX hatchback
http://www.helminc.com/helm/pr...B45BF
thanks
http://www.helminc.com/helm/pr...B45BF
thanks
10-30-2005, 08:22 PM
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Re: chiton,helms,haynes,or honda? (FuNkDrSpOt)
Helms is really good although for electrical i like Chilton because they show it in "Spagetti" instead of plug style.
But thats just personal opinion. Also the helms doesnt say bolt headsize, only bolt and thread which is really good.
But thats just personal opinion. Also the helms doesnt say bolt headsize, only bolt and thread which is really good.
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