Casinbean

Getting some oil tomorrow, and I need some help 93 civic lx 5 speed, standard 1.5l engine...no mods (yet)

Padawan

Honestly, any decent 5W-30 oil will perform fine for your needs. SYNTEC is serious overkill, but if you want to spend the extra money on it, that's up to you.

ke98248

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I just use Castrol GTX 5W-30

B serious

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no real point.

pour it on an allready slick floor. Run at it at full speed. if you fall, it's good oil. that's my scientific view.

seriously, though. Synthetic oil is kinda overkill for that.

polything

you cant really tell...

hondamark35

you don't need syntec unless you are hard on your engine. real hard.

alexbig6

i have a freind running syntec in his sti and no complaints

3lo

Synthetic oil comparison

Royal purple 5w-20 second page.(synthetic)
http://www.royalpurple.com/pdfsi/rpmoips.pdf

Mobil 1 5w-20 at the bottom (synthetic)
http://www.mobil.com/USA-Engli...0.asp

Ams oil 5w-20 at the bottom (synthetic)
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/xlm.aspx

Pennzoil 5w-20 second page (NON SYNTHETIC)
http://www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsh...e.PDF

Flash point = point at witch oil will burn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_point

Royal purple 5w-20: 235 C
Mobil 1 5w-20: 228 C
Ams oil 5w-20: 226 C
Pennzoil 5w-20 multi grade: 229 C

Flash point: 1st RP, 2nd Penn, 3rd AMS, 4th Mobil 1

Viscosity cSt @ 100 C = How thin the oil gets 40 is thick 8 is thin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscosity

Royal purple:8.7
Mobil 1:8.8
Ams oil:8.5
Pennzoil:8.2

Viscosity @ 100 c: 1st Mobil 1, 2nd RP, 3rd AMS, 4th Penn

Viscosity Index = How oil reacts to temp. changes higher numbers are better thy can react to a bigger window of temperatures.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscosity_index

Royal purple:156
Mobil 1:163
Ams:165
Pennzoil:143

Viscosity Index: 1st Ams, 2nd Mobil 1, 3rd RP, 4th pennzoil

B serious

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walmart sells mobil1 for $19.99 for 5 quarts

Mobil 5000 extended life conventional high performance oil is $8.99 for 5 quarts.

cant beat that.

Casinbean

Thanks for the responses

Casinbean

What brand do you guys reccomend?

philosofy1

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there is nothing fancy about your motor, why spend the extra cash on synthetic.
conventional oil will be fine. you've been watch the castrol commercial where the dodge charger blows up, haven't you.

don't worry, your motor is safe. that will not happen to you.

3lo

mobil 1

Casinbean

Haha yes i've seen that, but no, it didn't make me think my engine would blow up. I was j/w if anyone had good experiences with it. haha

philosofy1

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i know you didn't think that, it was a joke. but on a serious note, you don't need to spend more than needed on a oil change. as expensive as oil and oil based product are now a days, conventional oil will do fine.

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hey i like your avatar lot better!

bmoua

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there is nothing fancy about your motor, why spend the extra cash on synthetic.
conventional oil will be fine. you've been watch the castrol commercial where the dodge charger blows up, haven't you.

don't worry, your motor is safe. that will not happen to you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its really up to you if you want to spend a little extra for synthetic bro. I run 5w30 mobil 1 full synthetic on my y8 (bone stock w/ drop in k/n filter). From switching to regular motor oil to synthetic, i honestly did feel a difference in smoothness and acceleration. Its not something to brag about though, overall i'm happy with the outcome. Keep in mind, once you throw in synthetic oil you'll always have to use only synthetic oil. I can't explain why but i'm sure other HT members can clear that up for you.

philosofy1

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Its really up to you if you want to spend a little extra for synthetic bro. I run 5w30 mobil 1 full synthetic on my y8 (bone stock w/ drop in k/n filter). From switching to regular motor oil to synthetic, i honestly did feel a difference in smoothness and acceleration. Its not something to brag about though, overall i'm happy with the outcome. Keep in mind, once you throw in synthetic oil you'll always have to use only synthetic oil. I can't explain why but i'm sure other HT members can clear that up for you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

actually i don't need anyone to clear anything up. i understand the difference between the 2 oils. the op wanted a opinion and all i did was provode him with one. he actually has the final desicion.

is it needed on a stock motor? no.
is you noticing the difference all in your head? yes.

Padawan

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You must have a very well-calibrated butt dyno. I'd be surprised if there were any sort of repeatable gains to be seen on a real dyno either, but if you're happy with the choice, it won't hurt to stick with it.


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That's a long-running myth that simply isn't true. You can switch back to convention anytime you want with no ill effects.

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bmoua

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actually i don't need anyone to clear anything up. i understand the difference between the 2 oils. the op wanted a opinion and all i did was provode him with one. he actually has the final desicion.

is it needed on a stock motor? no.
is you noticing the difference all in your head? yes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha i wasn't trying to offend you bro...i was just stating i run the sythetic oil in my D. It was a opinion just as yours bro...

As for the difference, i honestly did feel a difference. It may be just my opinion but i stand by it.

philosofy1

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haha i wasn't trying to offend you bro...i was just stating i run the sythetic oil in my D. It was a opinion just as yours bro... </TD></TR></TABLE>

i'm not offended. just trying to help the op save some money.
it's all good!

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You must have a very well-calibrated butt dyno.
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LOL, that's a good one!

bmoua

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You must have a very well-calibrated butt dyno. I'd be surprised if there were any sort of repeatable gains to be seen on a real dyno either, but if you're happy with the choice, it won't hurt to stick with it.


That's a long-running myth that simply isn't true. You can switch back to convention anytime you want with no ill effects.



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i'm not looking for any gains on a dyno but i understand where you coming from bro.

thanks for clearing that up bro....

Padawan

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That's fine, but you stated that you felt a difference in acceleration, which would have to indicate that power was somehow increased.

bmoua

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That's fine, but you stated that you felt a difference in acceleration, which would have to indicate that power was somehow increased. </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha i said "i honestly did feel a difference in smoothness and acceleration". I never stated any hp numbers or any kind. I'm pretty sure i'm not getting 1/2 hp or anything of that sort.

A difference does mean some sort of increased hp, i totally agree with that. I just never meant it in that way. If i offended anybody i'm sorry haha