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Old 08-06-2003, 06:18 PM
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Default Car is stilll running VERY rich - any new ideas?

So far, I have changed:
-primary and secondary o2
-fuel filter
-air filter
-spark plugs

This is to get my car to run something other than super rich. I failed emissions terribly so I went home and did all this, and its still running just as rich as it was. Car is a 96 civic, 97 b16a2 w/ OBD2 P30 ecu. Any ideas?
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Do you have an aftermarket fuel rail or regulator?
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Neither. Fuel system is all stock. I just thought of this. I have a cat I know is good, but its an OBD1 with no o2 bung. If I put that one on and disconnected my secondary o2 sensor for the emissions test, will I have any chance of passing? Or will my car run worse without the secondary?
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Default Re: Car is stilll running VERY rich - any new ideas? (VTEC-DA)

Check the vacuum line on the fuel pressure regulator.
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Drop your idle for the test.
Drive for a long time before the test.
What fuel PSI are you running?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 976 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Drop your idle for the test.
Drive for a long time before the test.
What fuel PSI are you running?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stock I assume. I havent touched any of that. I am going to buy a fuel pressure gauge tommorrow just to make sure its still within stock specs. If its high, I will have to buy a FPR to lower it a little.
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You don't have a chipped ecu right?
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Nope. Unchipped P30.
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check your timing, distributor and belt....usually the cause..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by larrysdsol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check your timing, distributor and belt....usually the cause..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Timing is fine. The distributor works, I know that much, but what do you mean check it?
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[QUOTE=larrysdsol]check your timing, distributor and belt....usually the cause..
when u get smog, the timing is on the fail sheet.. how do u check the distributor?
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are u using the lowest fuel octane?..higher octane will cause a rich condition
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jump your ecu to see if it is throwing any codes. i think it can have a problem and not signal the check engine light.
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