Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

Car runs better cold

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-16-2006, 09:38 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Mr. Em1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 6,456
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Car runs better cold

Hey i got a 99 si with a gsr in it, and i have a small problem. The car tends to run noticably faster when it first warms up from being cold, like as soon as its in operating temperature i engage vtec and it is noticibly stronger than when ive been driving for like 15 minutes. What could be the reasons for this? Thanks for your help in advance.
Old 10-16-2006, 09:39 PM
  #2  
HT White Ops
iTrader: (1)
 
Eran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: I see what you did there.
Posts: 16,222
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Does your temperature gauge go above 1/3 up? Does your radiator fan come on? When was the last time you flushed your radiator fluid?
Old 10-16-2006, 09:42 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Mr. Em1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 6,456
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

forgot to mention that, the temperature gauge stays at the correct position, radiator fan works and i flushed , my radiator fluid about 2 months ago
Old 10-16-2006, 09:42 PM
  #4  
HT White Ops
iTrader: (1)
 
Eran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: I see what you did there.
Posts: 16,222
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: (Mr. Em1)

About where does your car idle?
Old 10-16-2006, 09:44 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
ATEJ8FTW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: slow lane in sactown
Posts: 329
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

umm, i think all cars run better after being warmed up. is that what your saying?
Old 10-16-2006, 09:45 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Mr. Em1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 6,456
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

car idles at about 750-800, no im saying it runs noticbly faster when it is first warmed up, before it has been at operating temp. for 5 minutes or more
Old 10-16-2006, 09:47 PM
  #7  
HT White Ops
iTrader: (1)
 
Eran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: I see what you did there.
Posts: 16,222
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: (Mr. Em1)

So does the idle change, does it feel like it boggs, does it stutter? Or does it just not feel .... fast?
Old 10-16-2006, 09:51 PM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Mr. Em1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 6,456
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

it doesnt bog, it just feels as if it run faster when it first warms up, rather than 10 or 15 minutes after it has been warmed it from driving it. its a noticible loss in power
Old 10-16-2006, 11:30 PM
  #9  
 
asshat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Mr. Em1)

i say the cars running a little warm after driving it for 15mins check your fluid thermostat all that good stuff or maybe it just you and you think it runs better cause you just got in it and after driving it you get use to it agian or maybe your car dont like you and when you frist drive it it thinks your some one else and after it relizes its you it starts running like but in hopes that youll sell it or leave it parked
Old 10-17-2006, 12:20 AM
  #10  
Member
 
thahuhstunna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NineSixteen
Posts: 2,466
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (asshat)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by asshat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i say the cars running a little warm after driving it for 15mins check your fluid thermostat all that good stuff or maybe it just you and you think it runs better cause you just got in it and after driving it you get use to it agian or maybe your car dont like you and when you frist drive it it thinks your some one else and after it relizes its you it starts running like but in hopes that youll sell it or leave it parked</TD></TR></TABLE>

world's longest sentence.
Old 10-17-2006, 03:46 AM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Syndacate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rochester, New York -> Santa Clara, CA
Posts: 10,443
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Uhh...cars run better after getting to standard operating temperature.

That's why your car races when you turn it on in cold weather, it's trying to get to standard operating temperature as quickly (but still safely) as possible because it's bad to go hard on a cold block.

Now from what you're saying, when the ambient temperature is lower, your car generally has more power due to the increased ammounts of oxygen in the air. That's why on a dyno they tell you to do it in the evening when the sun's not beating down and heating the air (or as much of it).

So stardard operating temperature in cool weather is ideal for most engines.
Old 10-17-2006, 03:56 AM
  #12  
 
dowdle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Biloxi, ms, usa
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Car runs better cold (Mr. Em1)

its better to let the car warm up before you drive it. let it get to operating temp before driving it.
Old 10-17-2006, 04:54 AM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Markland Photo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Long Island, NY, USA
Posts: 7,613
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Car runs better cold (dowdle)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dowdle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its better to let the car warm up before you drive it. let it get to operating temp before driving it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

gj completely missing what hes saying

cold air is definitly a lot healthier then when warm, your engine just has a knack for liking the cold
so does my intercooler
Old 10-17-2006, 07:22 AM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Mr. Em1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 6,456
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

well doesntreally explain why its noticlbly faster but ok
Old 10-18-2006, 06:08 AM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Mr. Em1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 6,456
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Car runs better cold (Mr. Em1)

any others
Old 10-18-2006, 02:38 PM
  #16  
 
Felliph3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 1,745
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

take it to a mechanic
Old 10-18-2006, 02:51 PM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
 
nonsense's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 4,167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Car runs better cold (Mr. Em1)

what type of intake do you have? If it's a short-ram (aka hot air intake) it would make sense that when the underhood temps go up the car runs slower.
Old 10-18-2006, 02:51 PM
  #18  
Dac
Junior Member
 
Dac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Meridian, ID, United States
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

push it off a cliff
Old 10-19-2006, 06:10 AM
  #19  
 
egsir2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: waterford, Ireland, ireland
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (DacBiet)

i think every car runs a little faster at first. the intake manifold will be cold,and the engine bay in general will be cold,thus making the air the car is sucking in colder. put your hand on your intake mani before you drive,and then again after 15 mins,i guarantee you wont be able to hold it ther for long the second time round.
Old 10-19-2006, 06:34 AM
  #20  
 
EvoB23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Orlando, Fl, U.S.
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

What about your sensors are the workin properly.
Old 10-19-2006, 07:17 AM
  #21  
cute little bastard
 
SkoundrelUSA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Sersey Jhore
Posts: 7,086
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Car runs better cold (Mr. Em1)

I know exactly what you mean. When I first begin to drive my car from cold start it feels like it has more torque than later on after its at operating temp. I have no explanation.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egsir2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think every car runs a little faster at first. the intake manifold will be cold,and the engine bay in general will be cold,thus making the air the car is sucking in colder. put your hand on your intake mani before you drive,and then again after 15 mins,i guarantee you wont be able to hold it ther for long the second time round.</TD></TR></TABLE>

/\/\ That might make sense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> That's why on a dyno they tell you to do it in the evening when the sun's not beating down and heating the air (or as much of it). </TD></TR></TABLE>

Funny because for the most part DynoJets and Mustang dynos are well...inside a garage. I've never heard of strictly dynoing it at night. LMAO
Old 10-20-2006, 10:10 AM
  #22  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Mr. Em1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 6,456
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

lol yeah its prolly case of thatl but thanks for everyones help
Old 10-20-2006, 10:24 AM
  #23  
Honda-Tech Member
 
92_VX_EG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Waynesboro, PA, USA
Posts: 528
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Mr. Em1)

Barometric pressure is what makes your car run faster not air temperature. If you watch NHRA Pro Stock Warren Johnson explained it on an interview.

But what I think he's saying is that when it first warms up and he gets on it it feels faster than when it's warmed up and ran over 10 min and he gets on it. It really isn't any faster... it just feels that way. Your mind gets use to it after the 1st time, which makes it feel slower every time after that. It's like if you drive when you're high your car feels really fast compared to when you weren't. LOL.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ek4_sir
Acura Integra
9
06-29-2009 04:40 PM
dc2long
Acura Integra
12
03-09-2008 09:39 PM
Clutchmasta55
Acura Integra
7
03-11-2006 08:08 PM
djSALIX
Acura Integra
10
02-12-2006 09:04 AM
The Lobster
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
16
12-25-2004 07:35 PM



Quick Reply: Car runs better cold



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:39 AM.