Car dies Radomly.. Horrible Misfire @ idle. Smoke out the intake Manifold
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Car dies Radomly.. Horrible Misfire @ idle. Smoke out the intake Manifold
well i took the car for a spin today and it just died while driving. and Hondata said it was Ignition output signal.
So i replaced
Cap
Rotor
Plugs
ICM
Coil
Started the car and the idle was a little rough as soon as i got the tiiming light out and played with the dizzy. and 2 seconds later it just died.
So i tried starting it again and it wouldnt turn over. and as soon as i stopped trying to start it there was a thud sound so i went and looked and there is a little smoke coming out of the intake manifold.
So i immediately went to Timing issue. Crank liked up with mark and i pulled the valve cover and the cams are dead on
So what the expletive is doing this? Im stumped. No more CEL and im not sure what else would cause this.
Help a brotha out
So i replaced
Cap
Rotor
Plugs
ICM
Coil
Started the car and the idle was a little rough as soon as i got the tiiming light out and played with the dizzy. and 2 seconds later it just died.
So i tried starting it again and it wouldnt turn over. and as soon as i stopped trying to start it there was a thud sound so i went and looked and there is a little smoke coming out of the intake manifold.
So i immediately went to Timing issue. Crank liked up with mark and i pulled the valve cover and the cams are dead on
So what the expletive is doing this? Im stumped. No more CEL and im not sure what else would cause this.
Help a brotha out
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Ive called everyone i know.. called Matt from Hondata. and dave from whipfactory and they are stumped as well.
waiting on a friend to do a leakdown and compression test.
waiting on a friend to do a leakdown and compression test.
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Re: (l337hxr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by l337hxr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take the car to pep boys. let them figure it out. they are after all, ASE-certified. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, take it to Pep Boys so they can visually inspect your car. Don't take it there.
Yeah, take it to Pep Boys so they can visually inspect your car. Don't take it there.
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what color is the smoke coming out of the mani and whats it smell like. get me as much info as u can and ill see what i can do i have a few honda guys i kno.
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it wasnt Pouring out.. But just a little smoke..
NOW The Code 15 is Back.. DAMNIT!!! what the hell could it be wires at connector are good and the wires at the ECU are good.
NOW The Code 15 is Back.. DAMNIT!!! what the hell could it be wires at connector are good and the wires at the ECU are good.
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Re: (JDMlyfestyle)
Ive seen this happen quit a few times. A couple of reasons this happend is due to firing order (im more then sure you dont have a firing order problem) Another time i saw it the dist. was 180 (did you take off your dist anytime resently?). Another time was due to a bad compression (valve adjustment needed, usual case.)
Get a compression testor and check your numbers. If there nothing better then perfect do a valve adjustment. Or for the hell of it do one and see if that helps if you cant get a compression test.
Your throwing a code 15 and you changed out the ignitor and ignition coil? Werent you using MSD? Did you try without the MSD and a stock dist.? I would try that.
Get a compression testor and check your numbers. If there nothing better then perfect do a valve adjustment. Or for the hell of it do one and see if that helps if you cant get a compression test.
Your throwing a code 15 and you changed out the ignitor and ignition coil? Werent you using MSD? Did you try without the MSD and a stock dist.? I would try that.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlyfestyle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">waiting on a friend to do a leakdown and compression test.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That or a ECU problem.
Whats the voltage at A21 KOEO?
You test the acutally connectors? ECU and dizzy.
That or a ECU problem.
Whats the voltage at A21 KOEO?
You test the acutally connectors? ECU and dizzy.
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Leakdown was all within 3-6% going to do a valve adjustment.
THE MSD is off the car i put a new dizzy on it from advanced auto and it worked fine for this past week.
Tomorrow im going to do some inspecting on the harness
THE MSD is off the car i put a new dizzy on it from advanced auto and it worked fine for this past week.
Tomorrow im going to do some inspecting on the harness
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Re: (Turbogixxer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlyfestyle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Completed valve Lash and it still does it and they all were within spec.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbogixxer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That or a ECU problem.
Whats the voltage at A21 KOEO?
You test the acutally connectors? ECU and dizzy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbogixxer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That or a ECU problem.
Whats the voltage at A21 KOEO?
You test the acutally connectors? ECU and dizzy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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ECU is Fine.. i dont remember the voltage exactly. but i was on the phone with matt from Hondata. and he said everything was fine as we were doing the voltage theck through everything.
Possible that i got a Bad Coil or ICM?
Possible that i got a Bad Coil or ICM?
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Re: (Luserkid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another time i saw it the dist. was 180 (did you take off your dist anytime resently?). </TD></TR></TABLE>
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