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Old 02-01-2014, 10:13 PM   #1
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Post Canadian and USDM 92-00 differences information.

I looked in the FAQ just to be sure it wasn't there.

After the good conversation with 94EG8 and another snippet from the past, I realize that there is quite a few variances from the CDM 92-00 Civics and the USDM 92-00 Civics. Seems a few pros know what these differences are but there isn't really a resource that I've come across. Even the manuals I have always seen are for USDM markets so that isn't very helpful for this particular issue.

Is there a resource that provides the CDM variances? Even the tables of information here on Honda-Tech doesn't seem to make any mention of CDM models and their differences from the USDM counterparts.

Really makes things challenging when trying to research from Canada.
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Not sure if this is the type of info you are looking for but here is one difference in the 96-00 SI(US version) SIR (Canadian version) clusters.
SI cluster:


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Canadian SI cluster(similar to US EX)


Changed the CDM SI cluster to one with the proper needles, thanks for pointing that out CO671, I didn't even notice they were the yellow needles, just thought it was the way the light was reflecting.

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For 96-00:
USA // Canada
DX = LX
LX = EX
EX = Si
Si = SiR

US DX/LX clusters are obviously have no tachometer and are mph and had white backlights
I'm not sure if that carries over as Canadian clusters which are LX/EX if they have no tachometer as well
Canadian Si clusters were kmh and had amber backlights [also some asian markets had amber backlights on these blue clusters]
A few weeks ago I helped out a member on another forum clarify why his cluster (canadian tach/fuel/temp, with USDM speedometer) was odd:

The SiR and Si difference above is correct, however the last one is misleading as those needles are painted and LED's installed. Great post tho DraginX
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Canadian CRV cluster which fits into a 96-00 civic



Canadian acura el cluster (basically a typical 96-00 US civic ex with an acura front end and different trunk lid tails along with a few other small detail changes, also known in europe and the honda domani)

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For 96-00:
USA // Canada
DX = LX
LX = EX
EX = Si
Si = SiR

US DX/LX clusters are obviously have no tachometer and are mph and had white backlights
I'm not sure if that carries over as Canadian clusters which are LX/EX if they have no tachometer as well

The SiR and Si difference above is correct, however the last one is misleading as those needles are painted and LED's installed. Great post tho DraginX
We also have a CX, and SE version (Don't know the major differences off hand, just things like a/c, other options, etc...)
Don't know if your DX is a sedan, but our LX is, we have both LX and EX in a sedan.
As far as the clusters go we have tach and non-tach clusters in almost every model except the cx which is base model pretty much the least amount of options you can get.

I changed the CDM SI cluster in my first post, I didn't even notice someone changed the needle to the yellow needles. Looking quickly I didn't notice, just thought it was a yellow hue from the back lighting.

All the info I provided is 96-00
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Ok peeps, get ready for some mad tight info Pulled this straight from a hard copy of the Canadian '96 Civic sales brochure (came from Hunt Honda in Ontario if anyone wants to know)

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For the most part the Canadian trim level is one level higher than the equivalent US model. There are however numerous exceptions (it's sort of like conjugating french verbs )

'92 - '95:

US CX is somewhat unique with it's 8 valve D15B8 and small gas tank, also none of them had a rear wiper while some Canadian CX models did (I believe they were actually standard on '95 models)

US VX is basically identical to the Canadian VX, only sold in Canada for '92 - '93

DX hatchback US 5 speed models had manual steering, all Canadian models had power steering. I have seen one Canadian DX hatch with a factory airbag.

US Si hatchback is basically the same as the Canadian model. Only sold in Canada for '92 - '93, '92 models only did not have airbags.

US DX coupe, basically identical.

DX Special Edition coupe, Canadian only, added the armrest, clock, rear speakers, and a fancier stereo, sold only in '95.

US EX coupe unique to the US.

Canadian Si coupe, Same as US EX but without power windows and locks.

US DX sedan, same as Canadian LX

Canadian LX Special Edition sedan, unique to Canada, same as US DX but adds clock, armrest, rear speakers and upgraded stereo. Sold in '94 - '95 only and has no airbags.

US LX sedan, same as Canadian EX.

US EX Sedan, same as Canadian EX-V, only offered in Canada for '92 - '93

Please note in most cases Canadian models did not receive airbags at all for '92 (the '92 EX-V sedan is the lone exception and is equipped with a driver's side airbag, for '93 The EX, EX-V and Si models along with all coupes gained a standard driver's side airbags, most other models did not. Canadian models all had DRLs while no US model did. Canadian Speedometers are in KM/H with MPH on the inside.
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Information for Optional Accessories on 92-95 Civics:
  • CDM 94-95 Civics are pre-wired in the factory loom for the CDM optional alarm/security system. USDM for these years are not pre-wired; the USDM alarm for these years is more similar to the 92-93's from both markets that use a separate harness.
  • CDM Civics had optional gold Honda emblem badging available
  • CDM Civics had 'Champagne'-coloured optional 5-split-spoke 14" rims in addition to the grey/silver.
  • CDM Civics had a white-coloured 13" optional hubcap/wheel cover available. (These look nice on a white car.)
  • Some CDM Civics had optional side-mouldings that are the same part number as JDM/EDM thin side mouldings. These are taped on.
  • CDM Civics could order an optional Roof Rack (made by Thule), an OEM Ski Rack (made by Terzo in Japan), and the del Sol could order an OEM Ski Rack like the one in Japan (made by Terzo)
  • CDM Civics could order a leather-wrapped steering wheel cover, as could be done in the USDM, but ours also included correct covers for the non-SRS steering wheels. This was the only market that GREY OEM-covered leather-wrapped non-SRS steering wheels existed outside of Japan.
  • CDM Floor Mats were different from USDM, both cosmetically and in their design. Notably, ours have a driver's side heel pad to prevent wear in that area, plus a stay grommet and bracket. CDM did not have as many styles for the Coupe as USDM did.
  • CDM Accessory Installation Instructions are all bilingual English/French.
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I know some us spec civics were built in Canada, Ohio and another state. Mine was assembled in Canada. Idk if some options were unique to where they were built but my 99 dx hatch has added power steering and a few friends and theirs don't.
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Great stuff, and I knew absolutely......... None of it.

Thank you all..... Hopefully other Canucks get some use out of this info, not just me, myself and I. :D

I found a cluster in another 92-95 civic hatchback for manual that has Tachometer, KPH with MPH as secondary. Black background, white lights and white needles (errr actually will have to look now I'm thinking they are orange). Red line starting at 7200 rpm. I was guessing it was a CDM 92-95 SI cluster? Was a nice addition to my CX.
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Great stuff, and I knew absolutely......... None of it.

Thank you all..... Hopefully other Canucks get some use out of this info, not just me, myself and I. :D

I found a cluster in another 92-95 civic hatchback for manual that has Tachometer, KPH with MPH as secondary. Black background, white lights and white needles (errr actually will have to look now I'm thinking they are orange). Red line starting at 7200 rpm. I was guessing it was a CDM 92-95 SI cluster? Was a nice addition to my CX.
7200 rpm would be the d16z6, so US EX/Si models.

And i wish my EJ1 had manual windows. Would save on costly window motor repairs.
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And i wish my EJ1 had manual windows. Would save on costly window motor repairs.
Swap the door panels and window regulators out for a set from a hatch or base model coupe.
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7200 rpm would be the d16z6, so US EX/Si models.
Definitely not a USDM cluster. And the needles are white, not painted with white background stock lights (not LED). It's KPH with MPH as secondary.
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Definitely not a USDM cluster. And the needles are white, not painted with white background stock lights (not LED). It's KPH with MPH as secondary.
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Yeah, i didn't mean usdm, i was hoping you would use the chart listed above. It's the Si/SiR cluster.
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Red line starting at 7200 rpm. I was guessing it was a CDM 92-95 SI cluster? Was a nice addition to my CX.
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Definitely not a USDM cluster. And the needles are white, not painted with white background stock lights (not LED). It's KPH with MPH as secondary.
Correct: It is from a CDM 5G Civic Si Hatch or Coupe, or EX-V Sedan cluster.

However, if you have the stock engine still in your CDM CX, then for a better match, consider obtaining a CDM EX or USDM LX tachometer for your cluster, with a red line at 6500 rpm. This line matches the correct one of the stock CDM CX D15B7 engine.
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Definitely not a USDM cluster. And the needles are white, not painted with white background stock lights (not LED). It's KPH with MPH as secondary.
The other way you can tell is the Canadian cluster will not say "Unleaded fuel only" on the fuel gauge like the US model does.

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However, if you have the stock engine still in your CDM CX, then for a better match, consider obtaining a CDM EX or USDM LX tachometer for your cluster, with a red line at 6500 rpm. This line matches the correct one of the stock CDM CX D15B7 engine.
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Should this thread be added to the FAQ?
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Do it, Tom .... you have THE POWER!!
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LoL - Done. Just hope Ron doesn't have to pop in and fix it like he had to last time I attempted adding a link in that monster of a FAQ. =D
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