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Old 06-24-2011, 12:24 AM
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Default Can i flash or take out the governor?

If i flash, or take out the governor, will my mpg increase?
if so, how much and what else will i get?

i have a 99 civic ek d16 all stock.
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get a obd1 jumper harness and chipped p28 you can get basemap with no governor
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

Originally Posted by Jader714
If i flash, or take out the governor, will my mpg increase?
if so, how much and what else will i get?

i have a 99 civic ek d16 all stock.
I don't see how not having a speed governor would increase your fuel economy.
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

is it plug and play, or will i need to tune it?
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

Originally Posted by NOFX
I don't see how not having a speed governor would increase your fuel economy.
This.
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

first off the car doesn't have a governor and second the car does not have enough power to push past 120 and third the this will not increase fuel economy in anyway.
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

Originally Posted by apexi_rsx
first off the car doesn't have a governor and second the car does not have enough power to push past 120 and third the this will not increase fuel economy in anyway.
What do you think the rev/speed limiter is? It's nothing but an electronic governor.
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

First of all, this is America!! Not Europe that you can max out in the highway..
second and most important, if you're doing auto x racing or drag racing, aint no where in hell you'll succeed reaching top speed in a STOCK motor. period!
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

Originally Posted by NOFX
I don't see how not having a speed governor would increase your fuel economy.
Since hes gonna be doing 140mph on the highway, hell get to his destination faster and use less fuel.



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Old 06-24-2011, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

Originally Posted by Jader714
If i flash, or take out the governor, will my mpg increase?
if so, how much and what else will i get?

i have a 99 civic ek d16 all stock.


So much wrong... don't.. know where... to start...

must.. tear out... eyeballs..
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

Not on a stock motor.
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Originally Posted by Arthas
Since hes gonna be doing 140mph on the highway, hell get to his destination faster and use less fuel.



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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

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So much wrong... don't.. know where... to start...

must.. tear out... eyeballs..
im new to the car scene. I heard, if you take the govenor out or flash it you can get better mpg. i dont plane on going 120mph anytime soon not even 100.
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

Originally Posted by Jader714
im new to the car scene. I heard, if you take the govenor out or flash it you can get better mpg. i dont plane on going 120mph anytime soon not even 100.
1st, there is no governor. 2nd, what would you change to increase fuel mileage? You don't think the hundreds of engineers made hondas as efficient as they reasonably could? 3rd, how much more fuel efficient would you car be? 1? 2 mpg?
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

what has been seen.

seem pretty new to the whole automobile idea to me...
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

The car is not governed. The engine has a rev limiter, but you will not hit it in 5th gear with a stock motor.
If you modify car, like throw a turbocharged GSR swap in, then you'd have to tune it anyway and you can remove the rev limiter then...though it's not a good idea.
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

what about a intake?
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

Originally Posted by Jader714
what about a intake?

what in the hell are you talking about if ur MPG is crappy than do a full tune up.... Cap, Rotor, Plugs, Plug Wires, PCV valve, Clean the IACV, New Air filter oil w/ filter, and Fuel filter i also add BG44k every 10k miles
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

Originally Posted by Jader714
what about a intake?
Dont. Ever. Touch. A. Tool set.
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

already did most of that
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

Then your car should be running like a boss and thats about the most you can do to get some serious MPG's out of it.
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ok thx for the info guys
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

Don't do anything to your d-series unless you rebuild the entire thing with high compression pistons and some solid cams.

Or you turbo it.

Anything else is a total waste.
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

Most people that I hear do N/A builds on their D regret it afterwards. The end results are not impressive.



BOOOOOOOOSTED D FTW!!!
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Default Re: Can i flash or take out the governor?

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Most people that I hear do N/A builds on their D regret it afterwards. The end results are not impressive.



BOOOOOOOOSTED D FTW!!!
For the cost of a gsr swap you can make similar power with a naturally aspirated d-series, that is if you're buying it from a motor importer and not snagging deals on local parts.

N/a d-series isn't bad if you're comfortable with ~150-160whp and 115tq.

It's fun, quick, easy, cheap replacement motors.

For the same money you could easily make 250whp on a d-series. Or the same power on a "fresh" gsr swap.
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