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Old 12-16-2002, 11:30 AM
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what's the stock civic exhaust diameter? how about H22 prelude exhaust size? would I notice a large power lose if I were to use a stock civic exhaust on a stock H22 motor?
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (fastwanabe)

its in a civic right? if it is, u have to use a civic exhaust because of the fitment of it. u just use the h22 header and the civic exhaust. besides, i don't think that the diameter would be that much different that u would lose a noticeable amount of power
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (FLAMENCOVTEC)

well this the thing, I am currently using the civics STOCK from Honda exhaust on my H22 and I wonder if the diameter of the stock exhaust would hurt my pertformance by about 10hp?
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (fastwanabe)

Yes it is causing a Bottleneck and is making it harder for the engine to breathe. You need bigger piping on the car. And yes about 10 horse power or more would be about right. How much easier is it to breathe through a McDonald's straw then a 7-11 coffee cup straw.
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (fastwanabe)

stock exhaust is about 1.75" you are definalty loosing power. stock prelude is closer to 2" with a well flowing muffler (compared to civic at least)

think 2.2l vs 1.5/1.6l designed exhaust
for one, I lost 12whp with using 60mm Apexi WS vs my RSR N1 exhaust
but there is huge difference in design and flow as the stock/apexi muffler are not straight through designs
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (FLAMENCOVTEC)

its in a civic right? if it is, u have to use a civic exhaust because of the fitment of it. u just use the h22 header and the civic exhaust. besides, i don't think that the diameter would be that much different that u would lose a noticeable amount of power
your so very wrong.. i lost almost 15whp from my CX exhaust/header when i swapped over to DOHC side... night and day difference.
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (eg6ajk)

stock exhaust is about 1.75" you are definalty loosing power. stock prelude is closer to 2" with a well flowing muffler (compared to civic at least)

think 2.2l vs 1.5/1.6l designed exhaust
for one, I lost 12whp with using 60mm Apexi WS vs my RSR N1 exhaust
but there is huge difference in design and flow as the stock/apexi muffler are not straight through designs
Wow that much of a difference? That is a lot.
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (vivid02)

good info thanks guys
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (fastwanabe)

btw loss is spelt l-o-s-s not lose
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (fastwanabe)

Night and day difference between my stock exhaust and Thermal exhaust with H22
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btw loss is spelt l-o-s-s not lose
thank you sir, I will never spell it wrong again.
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (fastwanabe)

the exhaust has to be makin you lose hp.

was the swap hard thinking of doing the same one.
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (project92hb)

I have a JDM h22a in my ek and I dynoed 12hp lower with a custom 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust with vibrant muffler, then when i switched to my greddy evo cat back. So I would imagine the stock <1.75" exhaust i think> would flow way less, and you'd be losing major power.
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (VTECxSiR)

its in a civic right? if it is, u have to use a civic exhaust because of the fitment of it. u just use the h22 header and the civic exhaust. besides, i don't think that the diameter would be that much different that u would lose a noticeable amount of power

your so very wrong.. i lost almost 15whp from my CX exhaust/header when i swapped over to DOHC side... night and day difference.
yeah, but no matter what, ur going to have to use a civic exhaust system whether it be stock or not b/c its going on a civic, NOT a prelude.
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (FLAMENCOVTEC)

this is really making me rethink getting a 2.25 custom catback with an es oval.

Would I make more power with An N1 Exhaust? How loud is the N1

BTW all is going on a B16 hatch
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (93dx--hatch)

this is really making me rethink getting a 2.25 custom catback with an es oval.

Would I make more power with An N1 Exhaust? How loud is the N1

BTW all is going on a B16 hatch
thats what I'm saying.... I dont wanna buy a 2.25 in exhaust if I wont get full power from the H22. I'm thinkin of using the 3 in from thermal what do you think?
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (VTECxSiR)

your so very wrong.. i lost almost 15whp from my CX exhaust/header when i swapped over to DOHC side... night and day difference.
My DX piping was small . I felt a difference on the BUTT dyno when I went from stock civic piping to just 2 and 1/4 crush bent for my b18b. My 1/4 mile time dropped by .3 but I also got better 60'.
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (97hb)

2.5" is a good size for a N/A h22a. 3" is better for turbo.. This is what I have found and seems to be the general concencious.
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (Alstare)

2.5" is a good size for a N/A h22a. 3" is better for turbo.. This is what I have found and seems to be the general concencious.
i agree
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (fastwanabe)

thats what I'm saying.... I dont wanna buy a 2.25 in exhaust if I wont get full power from the H22. I'm thinkin of using the 3 in from thermal what do you think?
3" is way too big unless you're F/I
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (Alstare)

2.5" is a good size for a N/A h22a. 3" is better for turbo.. This is what I have found and seems to be the general concencious.
dammit... who the hell make 2.5 in exhaust ? my local shops blow! I wanted thermal but they dont make 2.5" any suggestions?
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (fastwanabe)

Check out this link from ImportReview.com. It compares a stock civic exhaust versus an aftermarket one on a gsr motor.

http://www.importreview.com/reviews/...mparision.html

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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (RK)

Check out this link from ImportReview.com. It compares a stock civic exhaust versus an aftermarket one on a gsr motor.

http://www.importreview.com/reviews/...mparision.html

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excellent.. the kind of info I was looking for... thank you people.
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Default Re: can civc exhaust cause power lose on H22? (fastwanabe)

hmm, so I ran 15.1 on a stock dx exhuast with my B16, stock tires suspension......I wonder what I am gonna be at when i get my2.5 custom exhaust w/es oval.

I can't wait till spring
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