Cams and Valves
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Cams and Valves
I am thinking about installing higher compression cams into my B16 head, and i dont know wat cams i should use! I just installed CTR pistons in my B16 block. i was wondering since i have to change my valve springs, retainers, and seats for higher compression cams do i have to change my stock B16 valve to a titainum or a ITR Valve? I really appreciate the advise!
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Re: Cams and Valves (zdalunatic)
dont know about springs and stuff but i would suggest toda vtec killers if its vtec. they are expensive but sound awesome and give alot of power. if not that i would say do the skunk2 stage 2 cams. good luck.
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Re: Cams and Valves (that_eg_hatch_guy)
yea ikno ive been told i cant use toda vtec killer cams wit CTR Pistons due to the high dome and high compression..but thanks tho
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Re: Cams and Valves (that_eg_hatch_guy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by that_eg_hatch_guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont know about springs and stuff but i would suggest toda vtec killers if its vtec. they are expensive but sound awesome and give alot of power. if not that i would say do the skunk2 stage 2 cams. good luck. </TD></TR></TABLE>
And basically take away any streetability left in your car.
And basically take away any streetability left in your car.
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he wants to say when tuning the cams to specific degree,the idle won't be smooth and obviously more fuel consumption.Thats normal,you can't just get power and deny streetability.if you need power,go for skunk2.No stress.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by that_eg_hatch_guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont know about springs and stuff but i would suggest toda vtec killers if its vtec. they are expensive but sound awesome and give alot of power. if not that i would say do the skunk2 stage 2 cams. good luck. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you're a ******* idiot recommending those cams
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zdalunatic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wat do u mean it will take away any streetability left my car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
how does a lopey high idle and no mid range sound?
you're a ******* idiot recommending those cams
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zdalunatic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wat do u mean it will take away any streetability left my car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
how does a lopey high idle and no mid range sound?
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lumpy hi idle you mean low idle thats lumpy cause of to much overlap, but what are you duration and lift specs on those stage 2s couldnt be that much to cause that its not the pro series ... why did that guy reccommend those cams .......
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IDK bout skunk 2 but how bout ITR cams! Should i upgrade my b16 valves to titanium or does it really matter if i leave my b16 ones in?
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Re: Cams and Valves (that_eg_hatch_guy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by that_eg_hatch_guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont know about springs and stuff but i would suggest toda vtec killers if its vtec. they are expensive but sound awesome and give alot of power. if not that i would say do the skunk2 stage 2 cams. good luck. </TD></TR></TABLE>
vtec killers on a b16 with CTR pistons and a stock valvetrain? is that kid for real
oh and by the way IF ITS VTEC? what the expletive else is a b16?
vtec killers on a b16 with CTR pistons and a stock valvetrain? is that kid for real
oh and by the way IF ITS VTEC? what the expletive else is a b16?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zdalunatic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IDK bout skunk 2 but how bout ITR cams! Should i upgrade my b16 valves to titanium or does it really matter if i leave my b16 ones in?</TD></TR></TABLE>
you do not need titanium anything in your engine
you do not need titanium anything in your engine
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Re: Cams and Valves (zdalunatic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zdalunatic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am thinking about installing higher compression cams into my B16 head, and i dont know wat cams i should use! I just installed CTR pistons in my B16 block. i was wondering since i have to change my valve springs, retainers, and seats for higher compression cams do i have to change my stock B16 valve to a titainum or a ITR Valve? I really appreciate the advise!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Cams do not give you higher compression. Replacing your pistons, have the deck milled, running a thinner head gasket, ect, will yeild a higher compression. Upgraded camshafts will open the valves more and let more air enter the combustion chamber. Unless your car is a all out track car, you just need a slightly more aggressive cam such as Skunk2 stage 2. Now dont go out and buy the most aggressive cam you can afford (Toda vtec Killers) because that completly defeats the whole purpose of having a street car. But i would reccomend dual valve springs with a stage 2 cam, but since your probably not revving to 9k, you might be able to get away with stock springs.
Cams do not give you higher compression. Replacing your pistons, have the deck milled, running a thinner head gasket, ect, will yeild a higher compression. Upgraded camshafts will open the valves more and let more air enter the combustion chamber. Unless your car is a all out track car, you just need a slightly more aggressive cam such as Skunk2 stage 2. Now dont go out and buy the most aggressive cam you can afford (Toda vtec Killers) because that completly defeats the whole purpose of having a street car. But i would reccomend dual valve springs with a stage 2 cam, but since your probably not revving to 9k, you might be able to get away with stock springs.
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Re: Cams and Valves (yoffer)
yea i understand that, wat i ment by wat i wrote earlier was that i wanted more aggressive cams that wat i have in my stock b 16 head! I have a B16 motor with Civic Type R pistons, i had my block honed, decked, and my block n my crankshaft balanced which can allow me to rev to 9K+! My block is complete, and i have every thing for a ITR head except cams and cam gears! i have a Skunk2 pro series TypeR intake manifold, 70 mm billet throttle body, ITR Valve springs n retainers, upgraded fuel injectors, feul pressure regulator, DC Sport header and a OBD1 GSR ECU chipped with Hondata s200! I really appreciate the info yall provided me, thanks alot!
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Re: Cams and Valves (zdalunatic)
I would be careful revving to 9+k on a stock head... but you mentioned you have everything for an ITR head... anyways I have a b16 head too with ITR valve train, so you should at least build the valve train to with stand those revvs... not sure what everyones opinion is but i've heard good things about the blox cams...
best of luck with your build!
best of luck with your build!
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Titanium valves will run about $1,200-$1,300. You'll also need to run lash caps so the tips won't mushroom. It'd also be best to run some trick valve seats versus OEM. You should know all this though if you're thinking about running ti valves.
Just put some ITR cams in it.
Just put some ITR cams in it.
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Re: Cams and Valves (Aquafina)
yea i kno, its capapable of revving to 9K but i havent i recently put the pistons in n have bout 200 miles on the block! I havent even broke it in yet, ive only shifted to 4-5K havent even hit VTEC yet, But yea ppl told me bout Blox cams, but i dunno im a tech Pohanka Acura in VA n ill beable get ITR cams for cheap!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yoffer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But i would reccomend dual valve springs with a stage 2 cam, but since your probably not revving to 9k, you might be able to get away with stock springs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no way stock springs can handle 12mm lift. revving to 9k or not.
no way stock springs can handle 12mm lift. revving to 9k or not.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doood »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
no way stock springs can handle 12mm lift. revving to 9k or not.</TD></TR></TABLE>
definitely... please don't run stock springs
ITR valvetrain is sufficient for your 9k revving happiness.... but if my memory serves me right power isn't made past 8800 anyways...
best of luck!
no way stock springs can handle 12mm lift. revving to 9k or not.</TD></TR></TABLE>
definitely... please don't run stock springs
ITR valvetrain is sufficient for your 9k revving happiness.... but if my memory serves me right power isn't made past 8800 anyways...
best of luck!
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