jdmsir4dr

ok so i wanna get a alignment and my car is droped im putting on some 15' rims with 205/50/15.. would i have to put a camber kit on the front ? ..also my problem is dat my rear end have camker kit and there adjusted to the same distance as the stock ones put my tires are slanded in on the top part idk y..any help

98civdx

No you do not need a front camber kit, For the rear that is called negative camber which is 100% normal and ok on a lowerd car.

You will need to adjust the camber arm to get the tire to be flat, however, because you are runing 205-50's you may rub if you do this.

jdmsir4dr

so if i bring to get alligned its possible to adjust the front good so the inner tire part wont get bald with out the camber kit..

and for the rear im going to rise it a lil more than the front

98civdx

well yes and no, you can adjust the toe, which is the real killer of tires, camber will wear them but not very fast, however a little bit of camber and toe will really mess your **** up.

Camber is only adjustable with camber kits on civics. The only time i would ever buy a camber kit is for the rear, I would never use on front. Take it in and have the toe set to as close to 0 as possible.

ejprimo

the only reason to get a camber kit is if you want more negative camber. tell your alignment guy you want zero toe front and rear.

SLURS

iTrader: (1)

bump cus i hate camber wear on my front ties

98civdx

have you had the toe adjusted?

jdmsir4dr

No I'm plsnning to go this weekend to do it...what's does adjusting the toe closes to 0 do jw

98civdx

toe with eat the hell out of your tires. camber not so much.

Solebrity

if your car is lowered more then a 1.5. Then I would suggest front camber kit. I mean if you care about even tire wear. The rear camber can be adjust when getting an alignment.

jdmsir4dr

alot of ppl have said that front camber kit is not really needed even if ur car is dropped..how can i figuere out if my car is dropped less dan 1.5..cuz i have tein 1 piece

98civdx

Lowering your car 1.5 inches will hardly cause any negative camber, useing a camber kit in front will cause you to loose clearence, meaning your upper contol arm may hit the strut tower.
camber IS NOT adjustable front or rear without a camber kit, PERIOD!
I know many people runing 3 plus degrees of negative camber with normal tire wear, myself included.

98civdx

post a pic, how much of the threaded part on the coilover is left?

Enano_Ej6

i lowered my car on springs 2.5 drop in the front and 2.25 in the back,
it was sitting on 14in rims with 185 60 r14 tires, then i bought some rotas (205 40 r16) and then you could really notice the rear camber, so i now have a rear camber kit but was wondering do i need an aftermarket toe kit?

98civdx

Nope, factory the toe is adjustable.

Enano_Ej6

and i can just get that adjusted at a shop like les schwab

98civdx

yes sir, any where that does alignments for that matter.

Enano_Ej6

cool thanks bro

Solebrity

BS. What? read his first post again and read my post again.
First of all he did not say how much drop he has. Which if slammed, I'm pretty sure camber kits are needed. Read his post again. He said he had rear camber kit and alignment shops can adjust. I was just giving suggestion. So please read before you post and assume things.

Kidnkorner

No, you DO NOT need camber kits!!!!!!!!

Camber WILL NOT chew up the tires, only if it's combined with toe setting outside of zero. Tires rotation done at 4000-5000 miles will slow what little tire wear that would occur. Stop passing on erroneous information.

The term slammed is subjective. Slammed to you might be 3"+ inches while slammed to someone like my father is 2". In either case camber kit is not necessary, only toe.

Solebrity

Wow, Thanks for the info. I guess all the companies that make the camber kits are scammers. I just got screwed. Which I would have seen this earlier.
Thanks again.

Kidnkorner

Camber kits are mainly designed for enthisiast/racer/tuner to be able to accurately dial in their camber for performance. Not many people who lower their car buy camber correction kits.

Know how many drop springs, sleeve over and coilovers sales I do a month where the buyer adds ANY correction kits? 2 out of 20.

96hb

You do not need a camber kit, and if you need to correct something in the rear, you can just do the washer trick (search for it). My car is lowered around 3" and I have never run a camber kit in my life. My current tires have 31k miles on them, and yes, I do have some inner wear, but nothing crazy. Just get an alignment as others have said and you will be fine.

98civdx

Sorry sir, but your not right. Go to the suspension thread, and you will see a stickyed thread just for this.
I have been lowerd around 3 inches for a year and im just now showing a tiny bit a wear.

PatrickGSR94

iTrader: (1)

lulz I happened to see this thread on the H-T front page so I poked my head in here to see if the correct info is being posted, and indeed it is.

No you do not need camber kits to prevent excessive tire wear. What most people think is camber wear is most often actually toe wear from excessive toe-out up front (Hondas will toe out when lowered). Unless you have super-thin tires like 205/40's, you shouldn't have any problems after a simple alignment to correct the toe.

And yes toe is adjustable from the factory. If any shop tried to tell you they "can't" align your car unless you get aftermarket adjustable components, tell them to pound sand and leave immediately because they're either a) idiots b) lazy or c) crooks just trying to sell you more stuff.