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Old 05-15-2010, 12:27 AM
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So obtaining a GSR cat is getting to be impossible and also very expensive. I need to bar my car after I get the GSR running. I was wondering if anyone has tried the Magnaflow Catalytic converter and gotten passed by BAR. Does anyone else have any experience with this or suggestions, thanks.
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go to a junk yard and get a factory one and then just get the exhaust you want after you pass the bar
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go to a junk yard and get a factory one and then just get the exhaust you want after you pass the bar
junk yards in ca aren't allowed to sell used cats...!!!
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Originally Posted by BiG ChOr!Zo
junk yards in ca aren't allowed to sell used cats...!!!
This is correct. They do not sell used cat's!

In CA the magnaflow cat has to have a CARB number to be legal, and the CARB number has to match the motor. Then it will fly.
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get yourself a magnaflow universal cat for whatever year you need and you will be good to go...i picked mine up for about $150 and had flanges welded on and past BAR with flying colors..
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thanks ekb16, you are always super helpful with BAR related stuff
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just FYI they dont check the cat at the bar stations and they dont smog thier anymore either
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just FYI they dont check the cat at the bar stations and they dont smog thier anymore either
this is half right they do check to see if you have a cat but the dont check if it functions and they dont run the smog check anymore
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One last question for you guys, I have a CTR cluster in my car, do they check the miles? If they do, I need to revert back to the stock, but let me know, thanks.
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damn thats crazy.. here in florida we dont have a bar test or anything like that. so we can put all types of stuff and not worry about the law on modified cars. only thing is they will a law for car height and loudness... it depends on the cop but most city cops dont write tickets in florida for noise or improper safety because of height.
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Um, when I got my swap BAR'd, they not only checked the cat, they looked up the EO number to be sure it matched the engine. If you go slapping on any old cat on there, you may be disappointed when you go for your BAR. Caveat emptor.

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craigslist part out....beats pay 200$ for a magnaflow cat thats only gonna pass 1 or 2 times before it you'll have to replace it again.
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Originally Posted by blkcivic310
just FYI they dont check the cat at the bar stations and they dont smog thier anymore either
what do u mean they dont smog anymore? so are they open at all or what are they doing now?
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I was wondering if anyone has tried the Magnaflow Catalytic converter and gotten passed by BAR. Does anyone else have any experience with this or suggestions, thanks.
I'm headed for bed, soooo if you don't mind me quoting myself...

You might find this story useful.

Originally Posted by BlackDeuceCoupe
LoL! I exploded the cat on my B16A2 Si motor last week.

I was cruising down the freeway @ 4,000 RPM and puked a distributor. OMG! It looked like the 4th of July behind me! I thought I had an electrical fire -- but as it turned out, when the dissy went, it loaded the exhaust system with gas, and one or two backfires later -- the cat guts went flying out the tailpipe...

I didn't discover the cat was blown out until I got the motor running again. The exhaust smelled dank, and after 40 miles of freeway driving, I got a CEL. The local Honda dealer put it on their diag machine, and it came back with a bad cat code. Forward and rear 02 sensors checked out okay.

Aha! That's when the flames coming out the ***-end of my ride started making sense...

Gulp! Honda wanted $670 to replace the cat. Hello?!?!?

I decided to look around online for a performance cat. Insight #2 is...

Basically, there are 2 different kinds of cats -- 49 state legal -- and C.A.R.B. legal.

If you live in (or travel to) Cali, you'll need a C.A.R.B. legal cat. The difference in price is shocking. I bought a 49 state legal MagnaFlow 22630 (with OEM flanges, e.g. bolt-on) on Amazon.com for $193 w/FS. The same style cat with a C.A.R.B. sticker is $520.

I *think* the reason the OEM cat is so expensive is because it's *probably* C.A.R.B. certified.

I stuck the new Magnaflow cat on yesterday. I'm gonna take it back to the Honda dealer tomorrow to clear the code, because I'm running a stock (radio) head and don't know the security code. If I kill the battery connection or pull the radio (backup) fuse, I'm afraid I'll lose my tunes.

The Magnaflow is a quality item! Great construction, heavy flanges, integrated heat shield -- sounds great -- smells great. The reason it was $193 is because Si motors use special cats. The 02 bung is positioned in the middle of the cat (measures the first half of the cat only). MagnaFlow cats (with flanges and downstream 02 bung) for regular Hondas are around $150 on Amazon.com, if I remember correctly.

Anyway, that's my 2-cents. Have fun...
My car was REF BAR'ed when it was built, but I live in AZ, so no need for a C.A.R.B. certified cat.

BTW, I'm super happy with the MagnaFlow. Highly recommended!
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