Buying a d16z6
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Buying a d16z6
I have a d15b7 in my car now. And I want to swap a d16z6 into it. But where is a good place to buy it at. I need the engine and trans.
&another question, will if need to change my ecu? The engine I have now is a non vtec, and it auto. I want to change to a manual.
So I need engine, trans, wiring, and ecu.
Where could I get that as a good price?
&another question, will if need to change my ecu? The engine I have now is a non vtec, and it auto. I want to change to a manual.
So I need engine, trans, wiring, and ecu.
Where could I get that as a good price?
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You need shifter, linkage and pedal cluster also. I'm sure someone will chime in with more. I've considered this swap myself (except keeping an auto) but it's so much work, might as well buy the car with it already there.
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When I first started driving I liked this auto. Now I'm beginning to hate it. Once you start driving manual it's nothing better.
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Google it. This is literally the FIRST thing that popped up.
The amount of parts you "need" depends on how factory you want it look. Mechanically you dont need much. The list is very short if you dont mind having a car with an auto cluster, a constant CEL, the wrong center console, and no reverse lights.
The amount of parts you "need" depends on how factory you want it look. Mechanically you dont need much. The list is very short if you dont mind having a car with an auto cluster, a constant CEL, the wrong center console, and no reverse lights.
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Google it. This is literally the FIRST thing that popped up.
The amount of parts you "need" depends on how factory you want it look. Mechanically you dont need much. The list is very short if you dont mind having a car with an auto cluster, a constant CEL, the wrong center console, and no reverse lights.
The amount of parts you "need" depends on how factory you want it look. Mechanically you dont need much. The list is very short if you dont mind having a car with an auto cluster, a constant CEL, the wrong center console, and no reverse lights.
Engine and auto to manual swap. Smh
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I'm finishing up and auto to manual in a 95 Del Sol and also swapping in a B20B. There is plenty of information for a complete DIY here at Honda-Tech:
Start with the FAQ section:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/faqs-frequently-asked-tech-questions-1998336/
These helped...
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2943969
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/%5Bfaq%5D-96-00-auto-manual-swap-full-detail-44pics-1337459/
If you can pick up a parts car to pull everything from it makes the swap a lot easier.
Just bolting a D16z6 or D15B is not going to work. You'll need to modify either one of those for VTEC to work in your car (ECU and Harness).
Check out B20B if you aren't sure about the D16Z6, They are pretty cheap for JDM engines and will will be a big improvement over the D15B7. Not hard as far as swaps go.
Start with the FAQ section:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/faqs-frequently-asked-tech-questions-1998336/
These helped...
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2943969
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/%5Bfaq%5D-96-00-auto-manual-swap-full-detail-44pics-1337459/
If you can pick up a parts car to pull everything from it makes the swap a lot easier.
Just bolting a D16z6 or D15B is not going to work. You'll need to modify either one of those for VTEC to work in your car (ECU and Harness).
Check out B20B if you aren't sure about the D16Z6, They are pretty cheap for JDM engines and will will be a big improvement over the D15B7. Not hard as far as swaps go.
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I'm finishing up and auto to manual in a 95 Del Sol and also swapping in a B20B. There is plenty of information for a complete DIY here at Honda-Tech:
Start with the FAQ section:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1998336
These helped...
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2943969
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1337459
If you can pick up a parts car to pull everything from it makes the swap a lot easier.
Just bolting a D16z6 or D15B is not going to work. You'll need to modify either one of those for VTEC to work in your car (ECU and Harness).
Check out B20B if you aren't sure about the D16Z6, They are pretty cheap for JDM engines and will will be a big improvement over the D15B7. Not hard as far as swaps go.
Start with the FAQ section:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1998336
These helped...
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2943969
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1337459
If you can pick up a parts car to pull everything from it makes the swap a lot easier.
Just bolting a D16z6 or D15B is not going to work. You'll need to modify either one of those for VTEC to work in your car (ECU and Harness).
Check out B20B if you aren't sure about the D16Z6, They are pretty cheap for JDM engines and will will be a big improvement over the D15B7. Not hard as far as swaps go.
Is it hard to change the mounts?
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Changing the mounts is easy once the engine is out. You will need to get a modified mount anyway for the auto to manual swap. There are kits that you can buy with all the mounts for a swap or you can pull them from a mid 90s integra... Its been covered so many times its easy to get good info in a search. Check eBay if you want basic prices and Pics.
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I have a DX non VTEC so if I do this I'm gonna have to change everything anyway.
Might as well go with the better engine.
Is that b20 dohc?
Might as well go with the better engine.
Is that b20 dohc?
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I think that the hardest part of the whole swap is getting the new pedals in for the clutch and brakes. It looked pretty easy, but I spent a couple hours on my back, head under the dash, trying to get it all in position and reattached.
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Is that b20 dohc?
(Swap injectors, get a conversion harness for the dizzy $35, and splice the connector for the Alt.)
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For some reason DOHC just seems like a dinosaur term. It would be safe to say "B" or "H" series VTEC. (Although there are dual cam F series VTEC motors). Love the Honda kids that come in saying "I have an Integra with the dewhul ovur heead cayum motueur"
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I'm probably just gonna get a d16z6.
But im gonna do an auto to manual first.
Will any d series trans work with the two engines so I won't have to buy another one once I get the d16z6.
Where is a good place to get a d series trans? Junk yard?
But im gonna do an auto to manual first.
Will any d series trans work with the two engines so I won't have to buy another one once I get the d16z6.
Where is a good place to get a d series trans? Junk yard?
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Any D trans will work, if your axles are good, you can keep them. You'll want everything it says in the guides for parts. Junkyards are fine to get a tranny. If its not a pull-it-yourself, be sure to ask if they know that is good, and ask what kind of warranty it comes with.
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Junk yards are good if you have one nearby and they can give you a decent warranty. Personally I like picking up an entire parts car, just so I have everything available. The auto to manual swap is going to need more parts than just a tranny.
Benefits of a parts car:
All the stuff you need is in one convenient place.
You can learn a lot by stripping it down without screwing up your project car.
You can often sell the parts and scrap for more than you paid to buy it.
All the nuts, bolts, and interior pieces you pull can come in handy later.
Maybe one like this: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/pts/4084229057.html *nevermind... already sold/deleted as I posted. It was a '94 DX 5 speed. Wrecked for $350. Search craigslist and local classifieds.
(comes with all you need for the auto to manual, plus a D15B you can swap or sell.)
Benefits of a parts car:
All the stuff you need is in one convenient place.
You can learn a lot by stripping it down without screwing up your project car.
You can often sell the parts and scrap for more than you paid to buy it.
All the nuts, bolts, and interior pieces you pull can come in handy later.
Maybe one like this: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/pts/4084229057.html *nevermind... already sold/deleted as I posted. It was a '94 DX 5 speed. Wrecked for $350. Search craigslist and local classifieds.
(comes with all you need for the auto to manual, plus a D15B you can swap or sell.)
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Junk yards are good if you have one nearby and they can give you a decent warranty. Personally I like picking up an entire parts car, just so I have everything available. The auto to manual swap is going to need more parts than just a tranny.
Benefits of a parts car:
All the stuff you need is in one convenient place.
You can learn a lot by stripping it down without screwing up your project car.
You can often sell the parts and scrap for more than you paid to buy it.
All the nuts, bolts, and interior pieces you pull can come in handy later.
Maybe one like this: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/pts/4084229057.html
(comes with all you need for the auto to manual, plus a D15B you can swap or sell.)
Benefits of a parts car:
All the stuff you need is in one convenient place.
You can learn a lot by stripping it down without screwing up your project car.
You can often sell the parts and scrap for more than you paid to buy it.
All the nuts, bolts, and interior pieces you pull can come in handy later.
Maybe one like this: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/pts/4084229057.html
(comes with all you need for the auto to manual, plus a D15B you can swap or sell.)
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be nice if you was closer to pa id sell you the whole set up with everything you need for 2k thats including the car its sitting in lol engine and trans have 8k miles on them
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Any D series trans should work, but remember the DX is usually geared for mpg. An EX trans would give you better acceleration
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Not *any* D series transmission. Any 92-00 D series transmission. D17 (01+) transmissions aren't a direct drop-in, and pre-92 D series transmissions are cable driven rather than hydraulic.
HX will have the tallest gears, be best for gas mileage, but worst for acceleration. DX/LX transmissions will have "medium" gears, and will be good for gas mileage, but still leave something to be desired for acceleration. EX and 92-95 Si transmissions will have the shortest gears, will be better for acceleration, but your highway mileage will suffer mildly.
HX will have the tallest gears, be best for gas mileage, but worst for acceleration. DX/LX transmissions will have "medium" gears, and will be good for gas mileage, but still leave something to be desired for acceleration. EX and 92-95 Si transmissions will have the shortest gears, will be better for acceleration, but your highway mileage will suffer mildly.
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Not *any* D series transmission. Any 92-00 D series transmission. D17 (01+) transmissions aren't a direct drop-in, and pre-92 D series transmissions are cable driven rather than hydraulic.
HX will have the tallest gears, be best for gas mileage, but worst for acceleration. DX/LX transmissions will have "medium" gears, and will be good for gas mileage, but still leave something to be desired for acceleration. EX and 92-95 Si transmissions will have the shortest gears, will be better for acceleration, but your highway mileage will suffer mildly.
HX will have the tallest gears, be best for gas mileage, but worst for acceleration. DX/LX transmissions will have "medium" gears, and will be good for gas mileage, but still leave something to be desired for acceleration. EX and 92-95 Si transmissions will have the shortest gears, will be better for acceleration, but your highway mileage will suffer mildly.
My school is 2.5 maybe 3 miles away from my house.
Highway isn't really a need.
Probably around 30 miles a week. $10 will last me almost two weeks. It probably will not sure.
But I don't need the gas milage.
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Not *any* D series transmission. Any 92-00 D series transmission. D17 (01+) transmissions aren't a direct drop-in, and pre-92 D series transmissions are cable driven rather than hydraulic.
HX will have the tallest gears, be best for gas mileage, but worst for acceleration. DX/LX transmissions will have "medium" gears, and will be good for gas mileage, but still leave something to be desired for acceleration. EX and 92-95 Si transmissions will have the shortest gears, will be better for acceleration, but your highway mileage will suffer mildly.
HX will have the tallest gears, be best for gas mileage, but worst for acceleration. DX/LX transmissions will have "medium" gears, and will be good for gas mileage, but still leave something to be desired for acceleration. EX and 92-95 Si transmissions will have the shortest gears, will be better for acceleration, but your highway mileage will suffer mildly.
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No problem, it's a common mistake. Most people completely forget Honda kept using D series past '00, and people rarely think about cable vs. hydro transmissions.