BoostedCivic85

Aight import fanatics! Need some expert opinions. I got about $3K to spend and I can't decide what route to take. For about a month now, I kept switching from one to the other. My goal is a reliable 350 WHP on a 97 Civic coupe. My current set up is a stock block D16y8, stock pistons, shotpeened rods, ported heads, 12 lb flywheel, Centerforce clutch, T3/T4 pieced by myself turbo kit with XS engineering FMIC, Type S BOV, FMU(piece of crap). Water/methanol injection. The car still runs but ready to be built again after 3 years of good abuse. Compression is going down, only 120 psi across. Just got Hondata S200.

Option 1 Sleeved D16 block .020 over $1200
SRP Pistons .020 over $425
Eagle rods $310
Stainless steel valves .5over $265
Valve springs $175
Titanium retainers $120
OBX intake manifold $175(Anyone got this?Good or Crap?)
Crower turbo cams $250
Misc stuff $500
TOTAL $3420

Option 2 H22A4 with built head Already got
Malhe pistons $380
Eagle rods $310
HCP Mounts $350(anyone got this?how is it?)
Hasport Axles $399(what axles can I use,90's integra?)
Accord Shift linkge Already got
Installation $600
H22 turbo manifold $250
Misc parts $500
Total $2840

Also, is there anyone running a stock block D16 with forged internals reaching 300 WHP? Your replies will greatly be appreciated. Thanks a lot.

d15bcoupe

personally i think you'll be alot happier with the h.

Quad-Damag

sell the d series kit and go h22 u will love it

.dave

H22 all the way.

runnin9z

Im not even sure if u can make 300 reliable hp with the D, personally id go the H22 route

sohcvtec1995

Keep the d. Just dnt get the obx mani. stay stock or get a edelbrok or skunk2.

sohcvtec1995

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yes you can.

y7turbo

keep the d man.. with 3 g you can build the motor like you want you can easy have over 300whp with a custom turbo kit..

just read and pick the right parts the first time..

BoostedCivic85

I second to that, yes yes you can get 300whp with the D with proper tuning. I'm not sure what's the limit with the stock block. Know couple D's running over 300whp and close to 400's but that's with sleeves. Anyone know? I know stock B series can handle well over 350whp. Honda blocks are strong. But without proper tuning, even a fully built even will go.

Thnx for the replies, hope to get some more. A D series with 350+whp will blow a V8's ego and a Turbo H22 in a EK Civic is tight. It's a matter of being humble with the D or show off the H.

Morning Call

theres more involved with the H then ur mentioning

u need axles/tranny/etc... itll cost more then 3k..

a turbo'd d would own a h

EK k kay

I like the turbo d setup. Did you consider an ls turbo setup?

BigMoneyP

built y8 turbo. 300whp easy with custom turbo kit, look on turbod16, there is someone with pistons and rods at about 260whp.

BoostedCivic85

I did mention the axles in my setup. $399 from Hasport. I'm also aware of the headache that it involves doing the H22 that was why I included $600 for installation(a friend will install it for $600)I want to install it myself but I don't know what all that needed to be done..Also, both options are going to be turbocharged.
Yes, I did consider an LS turbo, I was in a junk yard today looking at some B18B's but decided not to. I still need to decide what to do with the H22 that's sitting in my garage. Put it in or sell it?

EK k kay

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedCivic85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did mention the axles in my setup. $399 from Hasport. I'm also aware of the headache that it involves doing the H22 that was why I included $600 for installation(a friend will install it for $600)I want to install it myself but I don't know what all that needed to be done..Also, both options are going to be turbocharged.
Yes, I did consider an LS turbo, I was in a junk yard today looking at some B18B's but decided not to. I still need to decide what to do with the H22 that's sitting in my garage. Put it in or sell it? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You got a lot of options. I'd be confused as to what I'd want to do as you are.

EJAYATE

Turbo y8, cause its what I want to do. I got 2g saved up hoping to get another g soon so I can slap on an sc-61, until the d explodes then I'll swap to a b. The h will be a headache, but if you got the money, there is more potential in an H IMO.

BoostedCivic85

D series is winning so far, it was H in the beginning. I guess D it is. Now I can sleep better. I just hate smoking in the garage looking at that freakin' huge valve cover that says DOHC VTEC. I have to put a blanket over it I guess, it keeps brainwashing me everytime I see it, did I mention the Greddy 18g that's mounted to it. Crap, here I go again. Thanks for the replies. I can accept more. Any one for H22's?

willyboyK20

i would keep the d since u already got it. Work with what u got.
For the H22 don't u have to resleeve to add forged pistons.

APEXI Si

Go boost.
I have 201 whp and 175 wtq on a stock D. 1500 bux invested.

BoostedCivic85

Mahle pistons made pistons designed for H22 so you don't have to sleeve it. It has a goldish color coating on the side of the pistons. One of the reason why I wanted to keep the H22, but more work.

What will you choose? Sleeved D16 or Stock H22 with block guard?