tambara

Ok I just got finished with my auto to 5spd swap, and I must say I love my car even more. By knowing that I want more power to the wheels; however I have no idea where to even start. I know my pros and cons on both ends due to that wonderful bright red link at the top, but Im still not sure what I really want. My question to all of you is should I build the d16z6 in my del sol or should i swap it out and get a b16a3. Both engines will be turbo, but one last main factor which one will cost less? Including the labor and what not

turbociviccoupe

turbo charging yyour sohc will cost less

tambara

oh sorry i want at least 230 to 250 so i believe i have to do some internal work as well with the d16

hoya_10fintec

if you want the power to be around 230-250~ish and be MORE reliable is to be patient by swapping the engine out for the B16 and turbo charging it later. Yes, being reliable depends on the tuning BUT the B16 has stronger internals(ex. piston rods). OR if you know how to build an engine, I would recommend installing Suzuki Esteem pistons and B16 rods and boosting the D16.

first thing tho, KNOW what you're gonna do with your car and the power.

there's many more options so it is upto you to decide.

I personally swapped for B16 and turbo charged it later. good luck with your project or whatever..

turbociviccoupe

go 1.8 then better than b16 around same price a lil more get a gsr

tambara

my little del sol will be used as a daily driver as well as maybe racing a bit or to when people rev there stupid cars at me

hoya_10fintec

it's not much but enjoy the power of the B16 IF that's what you want... THEN replace the block to 1.8 or 2.0L later if you want more power...

tambara

so what you people are telling is that i should do the b16 swap right.

maynards_ek

[QUOTE=hoya_10fintec]if you want the power to be around 230-250~ish and be MORE reliable is to be patient by swapping the engine out for the B16 and turbo charging it later. Yes, being reliable depends on the tuning BUT the B16 has stronger internals(ex. piston rods). OR if you know how to build an engine, I would recommend installing Suzuki Esteem pistons and B16 rods and boosting the D16.

You meant Vitara pistons, right? And they arent the stock vitara pistons, they are aftermarket. (YCP) And a boosted d with vitaras, h-beams, and a good tune will easily hold 350+ hp. Not to mention that you didnt have to spend another $1500+ for the b swap. The d is way more cost effective, and you wont be out too much $ when you blow it up trying to impress the chicks.

maynards_ek

Goddamn quote button...

Luserkid

Brian does that mean you desided to ditch the PS/AC now or do you still want to keep that? When doing something like this and you want it reliable dont go cheap on it. Take you time and get the correct parts for what you want. What i recommend is picking up another z6 block (or if you do deside on swapping then that motor) and start collecting parts together. This might take over a years time (i know my build is) but in the end it will be well worth it. If you ever want to seat down and talk about options you have just give me a call and we could do a seat down.

tambara

it seems like ditching the ac and ps is the only real way to gain enough power where i want to be at. I would prefer I didn't have to. So im going to stick with d series. Now i just need to the parts that i need. Oh and why would I need a new block. Is mine not in good condition. By the way I got the ecu a week ago the car runs sooo much better

Luserkid

I say to have a spare engine so you could still be using your car normal and when you build you wont be down for as long without a car. If you have a spare motor you could have it being built and still drive then when its time to put it in it doesnt take as long.

Nice glad its working out great for you now

tambara

oh thats what you meant. You think its possible for me to do all the work on the engine. I mean is it simple. I just can't drop the engine myself. That would be were you come in. lolz.

tambara

oh and if my friend doesn't buy the one i gave you maybe we could work out a deal for me to buy it back from you. lolz.

Luserkid

Putting an engine together isnt hard provided you have all the correct tools and specs for the job. Its a very repetative job to do but not hard. If your not 100% sure of yourself to do it i would advise against it.

Better hurry on that block i have someone that wants to look at it soon so it might not be here anymore.

KoKo

Build

92hatch_cx-t

i would just boost the single cam...it would be way cheaper than swaping to b series

but it all depends on what u want....good luck

tambara

most likey ill just build my motor. thanks to all it will be in process soon.

tambara

if anyone has any idea on which kind of stuff i need to build my motor let me know

FullRaceHonda

forged rods, forged pistons, new rings, new bearings, maybe port thte head a little, maybe new valve train and a cam, dont forget a nice clutch setup

or you could buy a ls swap for like 6-800 bucks and boost the 230-250whp pretty easy

chadalac1712

how much money do you have? if you got some have bisimoto build you an all motor d-series. runs 11sec street

maynards_ek

I have built my y8 with vitara pistons and acl bearings that I got from a dealer on turbod16.com. He sells it as a "bottom end" kit for 265 bucks. (FJT) I went with a set of eagle h-beams for $315. You will have to notch the block in order to clear the rods. (As is the case with most aftermarket rods) I did it myself with a die grinder with a carbide bit and then sanded it smooth with a paper wheel. Depending on my tune, (i'm using the newest iteration of NepTune) my setup should hold to 400 hp. I think you need to check out Homemadeturbo.com and Turbod16.com. Everything will become clear...

#1nismo

yes, take a trip over to http://www.homemadeturbo.com those guys are doing some pretty impressive things with budget set ups on d16's