Broken Torque Mount, bolts won't come out?
07-28-2005, 07:37 AM
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Broken Torque Mount, bolts won't come out?
I went to check out my broken mount today; not only is the rubber not even there, but I can't even get it off of the car. I broke #9 on the diagram below. One bolt spins freely around in circles, not getting any tighter or looser. Then, the other bolt, the part that snapped on the metal mount, is stuck and i can't even get it to budge. My car did come from Michigan so it is pretty rusty, but my question is: Is there a nut inside of the frame that came undone? Any help is appreciated.
07-28-2005, 08:35 AM
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Re: Broken Torque Mount, bolts won't come out? (japearl)
there is a nut inside the frame thats welded you must have broken that weld loose when you tried to impact it off...the same happened to me with my ek hatch...i beleive i did it strait gangsta and welded the mount to the frame because i didnt wanna cut a hole in my frame to reweld the nut there...
07-28-2005, 09:15 AM
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same thing happend to me i had to drill a hole to get to them i cut the bolt in half got the broken ones through the holes i drilled and just put a bolt down through it hope that halps
07-28-2005, 09:33 AM
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Re: (B16ACivichtch)
same happened to me too. i used a circle cut to cut 2 holes big enough to get a chizel in there and pounded the welded nut off on each 1, them i cut a piece or 1/4" steel and drilled 2 holes in it, put it in through the hole and put 2 new bolts through that and 2 new nuts on the bottom with locktite. worked good and i was worried about cutting the holes in the frame but they werent very big, maybe 1 1/4" across or so. worked for me 
and it only happened to the drivers side 1 for some reason
and it only happened to the drivers side 1 for some reason
07-28-2005, 07:19 PM
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Re: (CRXified)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXified »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">same happened to me too. i used a circle cut to cut 2 holes big enough to get a chizel in there and pounded the welded nut off on each 1, them i cut a piece or 1/4" steel and drilled 2 holes in it, put it in through the hole and put 2 new bolts through that and 2 new nuts on the bottom with locktite. worked good and i was worried about cutting the holes in the frame but they werent very big, maybe 1 1/4" across or so. worked for me and it only happened to the drivers side 1 for some reason</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats what I did. Worked good
and it only happened to the drivers side 1 for some reason</TD></TR></TABLE>Thats what I did. Worked good
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07-28-2005, 08:02 PM
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Re: (AThiker)
take a hole saw, cut it the size of a 17 mm socket, cut hole directly above the bolt in the upper frame rail, drill down through, put on 17 mm socket on nut, use impact on bottom bolt and whala, put on new nut and tighten down from top and bottom
07-28-2005, 08:29 PM
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Re: (japearl)
And that kids is why you DO NOT use an impact on every bolt on the car. Honestly I didn't use an impact or air ratchet for anything except the big *** bolts on the mounts last time I did a swap. Broken bolts really suck.
07-28-2005, 08:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xEnderx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And that kids is why you DO NOT use an impact on every bolt on the car. Honestly I didn't use an impact or air ratchet for anything except the big *** bolts on the mounts last time I did a swap. Broken bolts really suck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The bolts didn't break when I was taking them out. I noticed my motor moving a lot, so when I checked over my mounts, I realized the mount was totally broken.
The bolts didn't break when I was taking them out. I noticed my motor moving a lot, so when I checked over my mounts, I realized the mount was totally broken.
07-28-2005, 09:32 PM
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yah i did that on the tranny tourqe mount... it still is on there but i just put some inserts in there and it works fine now but i still want to take it out
07-29-2005, 01:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coptzer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">imo using hand tools oon these is wat breaks them, </TD></TR></TABLE> ask any oldschooler..
First use a wrench.. if you cant, use a socket, and if you cant THEN use impact.
dont be lazy...
gime a break, hand tools are breaking your bolts and impact isnt?
hardy har har
First use a wrench.. if you cant, use a socket, and if you cant THEN use impact.
dont be lazy...
gime a break, hand tools are breaking your bolts and impact isnt?
hardy har har
07-29-2005, 02:34 AM
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Re: (R you serious)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R you serious »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ask any oldschooler..
First use a wrench.. if you cant, use a socket, and if you cant THEN use impact.
dont be lazy...
gime a break, hand tools are breaking your bolts and impact isnt?
hardy har har </TD></TR></TABLE>
these bolts dont break, they either strip out on the heads, or they break off the welds on the nut, ive yet to break the welds lose with an impacts, and ive probably taken over 200 torque mounts off in past cpl years
brian
First use a wrench.. if you cant, use a socket, and if you cant THEN use impact.
dont be lazy...
gime a break, hand tools are breaking your bolts and impact isnt?
hardy har har
</TD></TR></TABLE>these bolts dont break, they either strip out on the heads, or they break off the welds on the nut, ive yet to break the welds lose with an impacts, and ive probably taken over 200 torque mounts off in past cpl years
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07-29-2005, 04:25 AM
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Re: (schlit)
thats a little weird that this has happened to so many poeple??
are you letting pressure off the mounts before attempting to pull the bolts??
My mounts have been taken off and replaced twice and this never occured.
I am not sayin bolts don't snap or f**k up.
and who welded their tranny mount to the frame?? hope you have a strong transmission.
...and you shouldn't use an impact gun on everything. why do they make standard tools??
are you letting pressure off the mounts before attempting to pull the bolts??
My mounts have been taken off and replaced twice and this never occured.
I am not sayin bolts don't snap or f**k up.
and who welded their tranny mount to the frame?? hope you have a strong transmission.
...and you shouldn't use an impact gun on everything. why do they make standard tools??
07-29-2005, 07:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondachick81 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats a little weird that this has happened to so many poeple??
are you letting pressure off the mounts before attempting to pull the bolts??
My mounts have been taken off and replaced twice and this never occured.
...and you shouldn't use an impact gun on everything. why do they make standard tools??</TD></TR></TABLE>
in my case i used a ratched and deep socket and i thought it was just turning hard till i heard a pop and it turned freely, i had the motor out nad was in the engine bay when it happend, maybe its a flaw with these mounts? either way i didnt use impact at all on it and there was no load on the mounts and it still broke
are you letting pressure off the mounts before attempting to pull the bolts??
My mounts have been taken off and replaced twice and this never occured.
...and you shouldn't use an impact gun on everything. why do they make standard tools??</TD></TR></TABLE>
in my case i used a ratched and deep socket and i thought it was just turning hard till i heard a pop and it turned freely, i had the motor out nad was in the engine bay when it happend, maybe its a flaw with these mounts? either way i didnt use impact at all on it and there was no load on the mounts and it still broke
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