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rsanders21 04-26-2010 11:29 AM

Bogging after driving 20 min?
 
The car is a 97 Dx motor currently is a d15 bottom with a z6 head and will bog only after driving for 20 to 30 min. I've swapped everything out under the hood, new distributor, wires, head, fuel injectors and finally now I've converted to obd 1 with a p28 and still bogging. Could blown rings leaking a lot of oil cause a bog. I'm changing the main relay and fuel pump this weekend but I don't have any other ideas what it could be.

evildc2 04-26-2010 11:38 AM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 
Was this motor freshly rebuild or it has been beaten by some one else ???
any history on the motor??
before the 20minutes how does the motor runs??

delsolproblems 04-26-2010 11:45 AM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 
Bogging when hot is usually either the coil or the ICM. Their performances are affected considerably by heat.

evildc2 04-26-2010 11:48 AM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 

Originally Posted by delsolproblems (Post 42293915)
Bogging when hot is usually either the coil or the ICM. Their performances are affected considerably by heat.

Sounds like you have a problem with your o2 sensor, have you tried replacing it ??
sometimes they work fine could since they are running in open loop, but ones they heat up they cant adjust the air/fuel ratio

delsolproblems 04-26-2010 04:19 PM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 

Originally Posted by evildc2 (Post 42293944)
ones they heat up they cant adjust the air/fuel ratio

The O2 sensor doesn't begin to function until it is hot. That is why they are made with built-in heating elements and why a cold motor starts out in open-loop mode. It would be very unusual for the sensor to work fine after it heats up but stop working 15 minutes or so later.

Former User 04-26-2010 04:40 PM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 
Any CEL codes? Have you replaced the fuel filter? The engine should switch to closed loop faster than 15-20 minutes, unless there's no thermostat installed.

rsanders21 04-28-2010 04:59 PM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 
The engine has good compression, but I don't know its history. The oxygen sensors have been replaced and it has a new distributor, so that should rule out those. It drives okay not perfect but no bogging until about 20 min. The car is usually warmed up to operating temp in less than 5 min and doesn't bog till 15 min later.

Former User 04-28-2010 05:06 PM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 
CEL codes? Fuel filter?

redeg666 04-28-2010 06:48 PM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 
maybe a cat, disconect the cat from the mani, take it down the road

rsanders21 04-28-2010 07:08 PM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 
No codes and new filter and cat has been replaced with known good cat.

Former User 04-28-2010 07:13 PM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 
Mechanical and ignition timing set to spec?

rsanders21 04-28-2010 07:19 PM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 
Set timing with a gun and the wierd thing is if I advance the timing one tooth it runs good, but detonates going up a major hill. It seems like its running really rich and I've swapped injectors also. Swapping main relay and fuel pump over the weekend.

Former User 04-28-2010 07:32 PM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 
Is the service connector jumped when you are checking and adjusting the ignition timing? Another possibility is that you got some bad gas.


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joel96sedan 04-28-2010 09:09 PM

Re: Bogging after driving 20 min?
 

Originally Posted by RonJ@HT (Post 42296973)
Any CEL codes? Have you replaced the fuel filter? The engine should switch to closed loop faster than 15-20 minutes, unless there's no thermostat installed.


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