sol badguy

this thing





has this kind of power for D series



for B series:


saw these on <u>EXOSPEED</u>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bisimoto Engineering

World famous Import Drag racer Bisi Ezerioah, known for his all motor CRX 1.5L SOHC has now released his own line of Hardcore D series racing parts. These high performance parts are tested for optimum power and are built for the true D series fans out there. Finally, something out there for us D series fans!
Great for Drag, AutoX and Road Racing setups. </TD></TR></TABLE>

too pricey imo,just to share

Spade

Thanks for sharing , if you had searched, there was a major debate between this header and a few others a little while back.

sol badguy

oops,
i searched by "Bisi Ezerioah" and "bisimoto" and it came up with nothing so i posted,sorry to bring this up

SOHC_MShue

the bisi header is imo the best out there for the d series

xerox445

8 hp for how much? lol

Edit: $720 plus shipping...yeah its badass, but for like that price you could probly sorce a whole b16 swap &lt;&lt;&lt; SOHC guys are going to hate me for this, lol

Daniel

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the bisi header is imo the best out there for the d series </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep, that header means serious business. Expensive but does the job better than most SOHC aftermarket headers.

JCracer723

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xerox445 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">8 hp for how much? lol

Edit: $720 plus shipping...yeah its badass, but for like that price you could probly sorce a whole b16 swap &lt;&lt;&lt; SOHC guys are going to hate me for this, lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

720 plus shipping??? its about 20-30 bux on materials lol

SOHC_MShue

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xerox445 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">8 hp for how much? lol

Edit: $720 plus shipping...yeah its badass, but for like that price you could probly sorce a whole b16 swap &lt;&lt;&lt; SOHC guys are going to hate me for this, lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

i thought it was only 500. I honestly think its worth the money if you are going for an all motor d series. Considering a usual aftermarket header costs half that and probably only makes half the power. Seems to be worth the money for me. You pay twice as much, but get twice as much power

743power

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCracer723 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

720 plus shipping??? its about 20-30 bux on materials lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

you're not serious are you? The merge collector alone is probably close to $200. Cutting and welding a header like that is not easy either.

JCracer723

if you had a business license .. how much do u think you can get them directly from distributor?? buying them wholesale

743power

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCracer723 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you had a business license .. how much do u think you can get them directly from distributor?? buying them wholesale </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't know if the Bisimoto merge collector option uses a Burn's collector, but if they do, its $250-$300 retail. http://www.burnsstainless.com/....html

Ejay Six

Lmao look at those numbers Reminds me of how weak D series motors actually are.

JCracer723

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 743 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I don't know if the Bisimoto merge collector option uses a Burn's collector, but if they do, its $250-$300 retail. http://www.burnsstainless.com/....html</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly thats retail .. now imagine in whole say price and buyin them in large amounts ( 100 - 200 )

also i said materials ... i didnt say labor and hours spend on it etc etc

743power

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ejay Six &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lmao look at those numbers Reminds me of how weak D series motors actually are.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that motor is stock, if I remember correctly. 8whp gain on a stock motor, with a big tube race header, with no power loses at all, and solid gains all the way to fuel cut is not bad at all.

Daniel

The dyno says the Z6 also has an intake and muffler. Not sure how much those contributed over stock, though. Regardless, the Bisimotor header is ******* badass for a D-series.

743power

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCracer723 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

exactly thats retail .. now imagine in whole say price and buyin them in large amounts ( 100 - 200 )

also i said materials ... i didnt say labor and hours spend on it etc etc </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't understand what point you are trying to make though. Do you have a business liscense, and a source for cnc flanges, collectors and tubing, jigs, and welding skills? Research and development and marketing?

There's no point in relating the cost of building something to the cost of selling it.

743power

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daniel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The dyno says the Z6 also has an intake and muffler. Not sure how much those contributed over stock, though. Regardless, the Bisimotor header is ******* badass for a D-series. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, you're right, I didnt notice. I think the "modified" z6 header they used to compare the bisi header was worth a few hp itself, so that makes the bisi header even more impressive.

JCracer723

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 743 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I don't understand what point you are trying to make though. Do you have a business liscense, and a source for cnc flanges, collectors and tubing, jigs, and welding skills? Research and development and marketing?

There's no point in relating the cost of building something to the cost of selling it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wus your point of me havin all that or wut does it have to do with anything?.. all i said there is about 20-30 bux on material make it wut u want

743power

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCracer723 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

wus your point of me havin all that or wut does it have to do with anything?.. all i said there is about 20-30 bux on material make it wut u want </TD></TR></TABLE>

cool, thanks for the observation.

Donkey85

those are some sweet looking numbers but the 720 thats a bit rough

743power

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Donkey85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those are some sweet looking numbers but the 720 thats a bit rough</TD></TR></TABLE>

$589 without the jet-hot coating. Worth the extra $120 IMO. Heat retention and corrosion protection ownz.

Rhythm Racer

that header is sick , i would like to see dynos of other header companys like comptech greddy and dc just to see if the 720 is worth it!!

Dengar

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rhythm Racer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that header is sick , i would like to see dynos of other header companys like comptech greddy and dc just to see if the 720 is worth it!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1

I know this is tested on a gsr motor not a d series, but you can get a pretty general idea as to what each header could give you.

bretx0r

if i was going all motor with a d series that header would definately be on the list

ExospeedAMcrx

many are quick to Judge on the price, but compare the Bisimoto header to other brands such as Hytech and SMSP. Those I believe are a bit more.
You can't really compare the quality and performance these 3 brands to headers such as DC Sports or Kamikaze, etc.
SMSP, Hytech, and Bisimoto Eng. are in its own class.

These headers are not for everyone. Its for the serious racer who needs every bit of power they can get out of the motor.

And also, it is true that Bisimoto Header does use a Burns collector. that itself already retails $150-200.

Again, these headers are not for everyone. They are for the Serious enthusiast such as Road Racers who are limited to bolt ons and minor engine modif. THe Bisimoto design gives that few HP advantage over their competitors who may just be using an off the shelf DC header. AT that level, a gain of 2-3hp here, another 2-3 hp somewhere else, can add up to a significant amount over other racers.


and here's a pic of what a Burns collector is: and please dont say, that the same thing can be done with 4 pieces of pipe LOL

These retail for about $250-300 from Burns. Wholesale price? lets say 20% off, still comes out to about $200-250 Wholesale.
If you guys are surprised about how much Burns collectors are. the ones used in Top Fuel styel cars are almost $1000 just for a collector!





Modified by exospeedAMcrx at 1:02 AM 3/29/2004