Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16

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04-21-2003, 09:58 AM

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Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16

i was curious which is better??? the USDM B18C or the JDM B16...i read that both have 170hp or wutever but does the JDM B16 have higher compression please fill me in thanks...

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04-21-2003, 10:00 AM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (HybridEK97)

The b16 has slightly higher compression but the B18c1 has more torque -

numbers ----------------

JDM b16a2 - 170 HP...113 TQ...10.4 CR
USDM B18c1 - 170 HP...121 TQ...10.1 CR

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04-21-2003, 10:01 AM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (HybridEK97)

uhhh usdm b18c1... duhh.

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04-21-2003, 10:04 AM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (BCRUZ)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BCRUZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uhhh usdm b18c1... duhh.</TD></TR></TABLE>

torque

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04-21-2003, 10:48 AM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (Si.Hatch.92)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Si.Hatch.92 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The b16 has slightly higher compression but the B18c1 has more torque -

numbers ----------------

JDM b16a2 - 170 HP...113 TQ...10.4 CR
USDM B18c1 - 170 HP...121 TQ...10.1 CR</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'd rather take the B18C torque over the B16 aka 'torqueless wonder'....

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04-21-2003, 10:50 AM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (acydphryck)

its not just about hp...
torque is also a big factor

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04-21-2003, 10:54 AM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (HybridEK97)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HybridEK97 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was curious which is better??? the USDM B18C or the JDM B16...i read that both have 170hp or wutever but does the JDM B16 have higher compression please fill me in thanks...</TD></TR></TABLE>
The JDM B16A has 168hp, actually. The "170" number is in ps.

Get the B18C.

You'll thank us later.

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04-21-2003, 11:01 AM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (Targa250R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Get the B18C.

You'll thank us later.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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04-21-2003, 11:07 AM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (Si.Hatch.92)

I thought the USDM c1 has a 10.0 CR.. not that it matters really anywayz.

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04-21-2003, 11:11 AM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (Nine)

B18C1 all the way!!!

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04-21-2003, 05:24 PM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (civicmandx94)

no its not for me lololol its for a friend of myne wit a EF hatch...im already GSR N/A 13.0...i told him GSR all the way but he keeps tellin me B16 so im like lemme ask my trusty companions on Honda-Tech

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04-21-2003, 05:31 PM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (HybridEK97)

wow 13.0 with a GSR motor in a EK?

Whats done to the motor?

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04-21-2003, 05:34 PM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (HybridEK97)

my b16a makes more torque than a mildly modded (i/h/e, itr cams) usdm b18c1. BUT, my b16a will make more PEAK torque, somewhere around 7800rpms. not as useful as the C1's torque curve...which is readily available all over the powerband. go with the c1, just get integra front springs!!!

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04-21-2003, 05:35 PM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (hybrider93)

B18C1= torque and displacement, expensive though but worth it.

B16= a little torque more then d16z6, revs nicely though, cheaper.

B18C1

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04-21-2003, 05:38 PM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (Si.Hatch.92)

how much for each engine cause price is also a factor at least in my book

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04-21-2003, 05:45 PM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (BLACK DEATH)

Kev PM me and ill tell u......both motors are basically like the same price

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04-21-2003, 05:53 PM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (HybridEK97)

when i swapped mine...a b16a sir2 was 2500, and a b18c (jdm gsr) was 3300.

h22 was only 2800 though.

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04-21-2003, 05:53 PM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (HybridEK97)

what does he plan on doing with this car, drag race? auto-x? track?........depending on what you are doing will help you decide what engine to get, obvisously no matter what you are doing you want as much horsepower and torque you can get your hands on.

but for different applications you can make up for the lack of tq. ie.. a better suspension, weight reduction and so on........ look at the big picture and figure out what you want and then build from there.

drag racing.........as much torque as you can get
auto X................suspension, tires (my room mate owns a 00 ITR, [claimed 195Hp 130Trq from honda] rolling people left and right)
track..................weight reduction, hp, suspension, tires............

it is all about the power to weight ratio!!!!!!!!

i'm no engineer, these are just somethings that i have learn being around this scene.

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04-21-2003, 05:54 PM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (HybridEK97)

I sAy gO b16 cAusE itS jAe dE Em yO

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04-22-2003, 05:34 AM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (HybridEK97)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HybridEK97 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no its not for me lololol its for a friend of myne wit a EF hatch...im already GSR N/A 13.0...i told him GSR all the way but he keeps tellin me B16 so im like lemme ask my trusty companions on Honda-Tech

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Since it is an EF go for the 1st Gen B16A since it has a cable tranny to match the EF. It is cheaper and take the extra money he saved and get some CTR cams and adjustable CAM gears. He should have no problem with the power of that setup.

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04-22-2003, 05:52 AM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (Sivicfied)

plus it has a bigger displacement..

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04-22-2003, 06:27 AM

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How much do these run for ??

I got quoted at $2500 for a USDM B18c1, IS THAT GOOD? How much should the b16a2 be ?

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04-22-2003, 06:53 AM

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Re: Which is Better USDM B18C1 or JDM B16 (Si.Hatch.92)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Si.Hatch.92 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow 13.0 with a GSR motor in a EK?

Whats done to the motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes i would like to know, im bout to put my new motor in soon and its a gsr in a ek