Which is the best D-Series for my EG Hatch?
10-14-2004, 11:24 AM
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Richmond, VA, USA
Posts: 436
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Which is the best D-Series for my EG Hatch?
Alright I have researched the hell outta this, and I <U>CAN'T</U> choose which I want. I know I want a D-Series SOHC VTEC, b/c it'll be a cheap starter swap. Just dunno which one to get (which one is most upgradable, best power potential.
P.S.- Please don't post if all you are going to tell me is get a B- or H-Series. I want the D-Series for how much cheaper it is, and just to have a true sleeper: a B and H killing D-Series. LOL if that's possible
Any and all info, opinions, etc. is greatly appreciated. Thanks
Modified by Justin_Bradley at 10:09 AM 10/19/2004
P.S.- Please don't post if all you are going to tell me is get a B- or H-Series. I want the D-Series for how much cheaper it is, and just to have a true sleeper: a B and H killing D-Series. LOL if that's possible
Any and all info, opinions, etc. is greatly appreciated. Thanks
Modified by Justin_Bradley at 10:09 AM 10/19/2004
10-14-2004, 11:35 AM
#2
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Doggystyle, USA
Posts: 925
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Which is the best D-Series for my EG Hatch? (Justin_Bradley)
hmm you would need to BUILD the motor before its a B and H series killer. it's very possible but heres what you dont want to hear, if you are going to become the B, H and K series KILLA you imagine, its gonna take some dough. but if your just looking to upgrade your SOHC to be a little faster, i'd suggest swapping in a d16z6 which is found in 92-95 civic si's and ex's. buy a cam and cam gear, i/h/e, you can do all that yourself and then you will feel quite a difference in your SOHC beast!! good luck
10-14-2004, 11:38 AM
#5
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Solo
Posts: 2,190
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Which is the best D-Series for my EG Hatch? (RedHackBatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RedHackBatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">d15b jdm sohc vtec </TD></TR></TABLE>
d15b or d16z6
jdm sohc vtec </TD></TR></TABLE>d15b or d16z6
Trending Topics
10-14-2004, 11:51 AM
#10
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Northwest, WI, USA
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (T25So)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by T25So »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">humm...how built do you want it to be? N/A or F/I?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, there is another big decision, you turbo that thing, and you will add some real nice hp, without having to build the engine very much, if at all.. With a little build up though, you can push the turbo that much further
In the long run, unless you are one of those people who are dead set on having an N/A engine, I would turbo that baby!
yeah, there is another big decision, you turbo that thing, and you will add some real nice hp, without having to build the engine very much, if at all.. With a little build up though, you can push the turbo that much further
In the long run, unless you are one of those people who are dead set on having an N/A engine, I would turbo that baby!
10-14-2004, 11:52 AM
#11
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Northwest, WI, USA
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (SRCivic97)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SRCivic97 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a D16Z6 in my 97 EX. Impossible? Believe it or Not 
</TD></TR></TABLE>
why would that be impossible??
</TD></TR></TABLE>why would that be impossible??
10-14-2004, 12:24 PM
#16
Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 2,476
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Or D16Y8, and turbo it. Build a solid engine and it shouldn't disappoint you. Problem is money (pretty much the same with other engines out there). So if you have some spare money, build one at your own pace.
We have a local shop that recently introduced financing program on all of their services at a very low interest rate. Suddenly, getting a fully built turbo D engine (or whatever you want) has become that much easier.
We have a local shop that recently introduced financing program on all of their services at a very low interest rate. Suddenly, getting a fully built turbo D engine (or whatever you want) has become that much easier.
10-14-2004, 12:45 PM
#17
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: los angeles, ca, usa
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Which is the best D-Series for my EG Hatch? (Justin_Bradley)
get d16 and put turbo on that thing. put everything on it coz your gonna need it if you wanna be a b,h,and k series killer.
10-14-2004, 12:50 PM
#18
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: JERSEY, USA
Posts: 1,397
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Which is the best D-Series for my EG Hatch? (DOHC_EG6)
What i would do is get a d16z6 block a d16y8 head. Build it with some low compression pistons, around 9:1. Get some eagle rods. Something like a Walboro fuel pump, some 450cc injectors, a good fuel management, like uberdata, or hondata. Good gaskets, new intake manifold, and then turbo it. That should not have a problem beating gsr's.
10-14-2004, 01:17 PM
#19
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Monett, Missouri, U.S.
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Which is the best D-Series for my EG Hatch? (civiccpedx)
Go with a d16z6. then you'll run with gsr's. I have a d15b7 non-vtec with a cx tranny and I can come close.
10-14-2004, 02:01 PM
#20
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cambridge, UK
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Nova_Dust)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nova_Dust »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or D16Y8, and turbo it. Build a solid engine and it shouldn't disappoint you. Problem is money (pretty much the same with other engines out there). So if you have some spare money, build one at your own pace.
We have a local shop that recently introduced financing program on all of their services at a very low interest rate. Suddenly, getting a fully built turbo D engine (or whatever you want) has become that much easier.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civiccpedx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What i would do is get a d16z6 block a d16y8 head. Build it with some low compression pistons, around 9:1. Get some eagle rods. Something like a Walboro fuel pump, some 450cc injectors, a good fuel management, like uberdata, or hondata. Good gaskets, new intake manifold, and then turbo it. That should not have a problem beating gsr's.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree, that's what i'm doing myself. Junkyard y8. And while you're out there pick up an STD manifold. Hell, in one junkyard you could piece together a kit if you know what you're looking for
We have a local shop that recently introduced financing program on all of their services at a very low interest rate. Suddenly, getting a fully built turbo D engine (or whatever you want) has become that much easier.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civiccpedx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What i would do is get a d16z6 block a d16y8 head. Build it with some low compression pistons, around 9:1. Get some eagle rods. Something like a Walboro fuel pump, some 450cc injectors, a good fuel management, like uberdata, or hondata. Good gaskets, new intake manifold, and then turbo it. That should not have a problem beating gsr's.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree, that's what i'm doing myself. Junkyard y8. And while you're out there pick up an STD manifold. Hell, in one junkyard you could piece together a kit if you know what you're looking for
10-14-2004, 02:24 PM
#21
Member
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Burlington, VT, united states
Posts: 1,275
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (300whpOrBust)
I put a D16z6 in my 1993 civic (it was a dx) And it was a great learning experience. Now I have that same d16 turbo charged and it is a very quick and fun to drive car. So I say good choice on your first swap.
10-14-2004, 02:51 PM
#22
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (7)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: El Paso, tx, us
Posts: 1,176
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (RedHackBatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RedHackBatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sohc vtec with i/h/e clutch in a cx/vx should beat gsr's easily</TD></TR></TABLE>
i did it all day long when i was all motor.
go with d16z6 man. stay away from the d15b. if u blow it you need a new motor cus nobody can figure out what parts are inside of it. also if u spin a bearing u need a new motor.
if u go with a z6 u can find cranks all day long(i have 5) and blocks are pretty common. also the y8 is good but i wouldnt use the shortblock. only head and manifold for stock. the y series motors are more prone to spinning bearings which can be a pain in the *** for the average honda person who doesnt like to turn cranks.
if u need any info u can pm me. ive built many d16s stock spec to zc piston blocks in my living room floor.
i did it all day long when i was all motor.
go with d16z6 man. stay away from the d15b. if u blow it you need a new motor cus nobody can figure out what parts are inside of it. also if u spin a bearing u need a new motor.
if u go with a z6 u can find cranks all day long(i have 5) and blocks are pretty common. also the y8 is good but i wouldnt use the shortblock. only head and manifold for stock. the y series motors are more prone to spinning bearings which can be a pain in the *** for the average honda person who doesnt like to turn cranks.
if u need any info u can pm me. ive built many d16s stock spec to zc piston blocks in my living room floor.
10-14-2004, 02:59 PM
#23
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: JERSEY, USA
Posts: 1,397
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Which is the best D-Series for my EG Hatch? (93civiccxhatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93civiccxhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Go with a d16z6. then you'll run with gsr's. I have a d15b7 non-vtec with a cx tranny and I can come close.</TD></TR></TABLE> What is different about the cx tranny, i have that same motor in my dx and it is pretty slow. How could my same motor keep up with a gsr with just a tranny, what are your mods?
10-14-2004, 03:09 PM
#24
Member
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Burlington, VT, united states
Posts: 1,275
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Which is the best D-Series for my EG Hatch? (civiccpedx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civiccpedx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> What is different about the cx tranny, i have that same motor in my dx and it is pretty slow. How could my same motor keep up with a gsr with just a tranny, what are your mods?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Diffrent gear ratio's, the dx and cx have taller gears I belive.
Diffrent gear ratio's, the dx and cx have taller gears I belive.
10-14-2004, 03:55 PM
#25
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (7)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: El Paso, tx, us
Posts: 1,176
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Which is the best D-Series for my EG Hatch? (tolowhb)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civiccpedx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> What is different about the cx tranny, i have that same motor in my dx and it is pretty slow. How could my same motor keep up with a gsr with just a tranny, what are your mods?</TD></TR></TABLE>
get your dx car and run it at the track. take the same car and put an ex/si tranny on it change nothing and run it at the track again tell me what happens.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tolowhb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Diffrent gear ratio's, the dx and cx have taller gears I belive.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you are correct. the gear ratios on a dx,cx,vx tranny are crap compared to the ex/si tranny which is still pretty long almost ls teg tranny long.
get your dx car and run it at the track. take the same car and put an ex/si tranny on it change nothing and run it at the track again tell me what happens.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tolowhb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Diffrent gear ratio's, the dx and cx have taller gears I belive.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you are correct. the gear ratios on a dx,cx,vx tranny are crap compared to the ex/si tranny which is still pretty long almost ls teg tranny long.