bmoua

Im the market for a rear sway bar and i see that beaks makes a...well lets call it a poor mans subframe reinforcement kit. I've researched a little and you can use a 22mm sway with some rear lower tie bars (for looks sake). Can anybody give me more feedback on this reinforcement kit? will it do the job? Also i'm coming from a EJ8 which doesn't come with a factory rear sway.

Libertariat

ASR is superior in every way to the beaks, it's WELL worth the extra what, $80?

Especially with a 22mm, I don't think the beaks is capable of keeping your subframe safe.

sol2hatch

get the ASR, its way better. Search beaks and Subframe in the search on here and you will find a few threads about subframe failure with the beaks. I havent heard anything bad about the ASR. I know I like mine. ASR=peace of mind

bmoua

thx for the comments guys, i might just be going with a stock gsr rear sway...i really dont want to deal with subframe damage.

i drove my little bros em1 this weekend (bone stock) his frame felt alot stiffer with that factory rear sway.

Libertariat

Well, take note that the em1's have oem backing plated in the subframe to prevent tearout.

What's the size in mm's of the oem gsr rear sway?

SOHC4life 96

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What's the size in mm's of the oem gsr rear sway?</TD></TR></TABLE>

To big to use without reinforcement. I have the 13mm Si Bar on my car. It was fun for a while, I'm wanting to upgrade now. I think using anything over the 13mm Si bar is to much for an 6th Gen subframe. I wanna say the GSR is 16mm but I could be wrong. It's either 16 or 18. I know the ITR bar is 22.

egsleepercivic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What's the size in mm's of the oem gsr rear sway?</TD></TR></TABLE>

14mm

Libertariat

Honestly with any sway bar I'd get the asr kit just for reassurance.

It's So worth the $180 to not have to worry about The likely thousands it would cost to fix your subframe.

bmoua

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, take note that the em1's have oem backing plated in the subframe to prevent tearout.

What's the size in mm's of the oem gsr rear sway?</TD></TR></TABLE>

so will it be safe to run a gsr sway? the si rear sways are 13mm so they do stress a little less on the subframe.

bmoua

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC4life 96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

To big to use without reinforcement. I have the 13mm Si Bar on my car. It was fun for a while, I'm wanting to upgrade now. I think using anything over the 13mm Si bar is to much for an 6th Gen subframe. I wanna say the GSR is 16mm but I could be wrong. It's either 16 or 18. I know the ITR bar is 22.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i remember reading that it would be okay to use 13/14mm rear sways without a reinforcement kit. I know the 6th gen subframe is the weakest out of the eg/ej and da/dc's but i doubt a 14mm will tear my frame. can anybody confirm this??calling all EJ8's with 14mm rear sways.

egsleepercivic

i have had the gsr front and rear on my 94 ex for about 2 years with no problems. the rest of my suspension is stock. I live in the mountains and drive my car hard

gl

bmoua

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egsleepercivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have had the gsr front and rear on my 94 ex for about 2 years with no problems. the rest of my suspension is stock. I live in the mountains and drive my car hard

gl </TD></TR></TABLE>

didn't the ej1's come with a stock 13mm rear sway or was that just the eg si???

egsleepercivic

neither did, i think the sedan is the only one that came with a rear bar stock

robfrmny21

honda put put a bulletin about subframe tear outs on dc2 and eg civics with rear sways, and this is stock
this is why the em1 has a lil beefer mount point it is ok for oem si or gsr bar but thats it, 22mm will rip out em1s ive seen them...
npw for all of you putting rear sways on civics that don't have one and are not em1 you do not have that extra bracing honda used for factory bars. id say with time you will get a tear out now with time could be 2 yrs

bmoua

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by robfrmny21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honda put put a bulletin about subframe tear outs on dc2 and eg civics with rear sways, and this is stock
this is why the em1 has a lil beefer mount point it is ok for oem si or gsr bar but thats it, 22mm will rip out em1s ive seen them...
npw for all of you putting rear sways on civics that don't have one and are not em1 you do not have that extra bracing honda used for factory bars. id say with time you will get a tear out now with time could be 2 yrs</TD></TR></TABLE>

much appreciated for your feedback bro...

i agree with what you said about the subframing tearing out with time. Stress is caused by time it wont be a instant next day thing.