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Old 11-18-2003, 09:42 AM
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Default BAR ref...failed. :) Timing/Wrong hoses/Manifold too new to ref/bad plugs

Dammit. LoL

Oh well, I get the second test for free anyway. Other than the cost to take time off of work. (but hey thats nice sometimes right!?!)

Okay, First off, My ignition timing is at 18 BTDC and needs to be at 12

Secondly, I'm suddenly having horrible hesitation in the midrange (thinking plugs)

Third, when AEM borrowed the car to make the CAI, they replaced the almost too short PCV hose with a proper length HEATER hose.....refs don't like that.

Finally, I failed in all three major levels of smog:
CO pass = < .57 measured = .62
HC pass = < 66 measured = 138
NO pass = < 487 measured = 2610 (thinking plugs missfired)

LoL....so I'm ordering a Carsound 2.5" High flow cat to replace the stock cat with 116,000 miles on it (hello more horsepower)

Aslo thinking that the hesitation might be why he dyno'd less horsepower at AEM than Edelbrock.
<---should have changed plugs last night.


EDIT: Also forgot the fact that I have the Edelbrock manifold and the refs have never seen it and they claim it needs a EO# although Edlebrock considers it a factory replacement.


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Old 11-18-2003, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: BAR ref...failed. :) Timing/Wrong hoses/Manifold too new to ref/bad plugs (Spade)

what car is this on? Stock Honda timing is 16btdc

AEM Made an intake for your civic? I'm confused
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how much time do you have?
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Default Re: BAR ref...failed. :) Timing/Wrong hoses/Manifold too new to ref/bad plugs (Spade)

good luck on your next run. which location ref did you go to?
Old 11-18-2003, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: BAR ref...failed. :) Timing/Wrong hoses/Manifold too new to ref/bad plugs (Spade)

why did you have to go to the ref? i thought ur motor is a stock d series...
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Default Re: BAR ref...failed. :) Timing/Wrong hoses/Manifold too new to ref/bad plugs (degooser)

spade is one of the few sohc soldiers left
Old 11-18-2003, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: BAR ref...failed. :) Timing/Wrong hoses/Manifold too new to ref/bad plugs (Evil_gambit)

Hey I'm still fighting on the SOHC side! Just converted to the darkside as well :-[ ;x
Old 11-18-2003, 10:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg6si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good luck on your next run. which location ref did you go to? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Fullerton Community College Ref.

Stock D16Y8 with Aftermarket parts.
Aftermarket parts = trip to Smog Ref.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScrapinSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what car is this on? Stock Honda timing is 16btdc

AEM Made an intake for your civic? I'm confused</TD></TR></TABLE>

97 Civic EX...under hood sticker says stock Timing should be 12 Degrees +/- 2 degrees.

Edelbrock gave me their intake manifold as long as I loaned the car to AEM so that AEM could design a CAI for the new manifold since the TB is in a different location
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Default Re: BAR ref...failed. :) Timing/Wrong hoses/Manifold too new to ref/bad plugs (Spade)

Heard the Carsound high flow cats won't pass smog, you might want to check that out.
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Default Re: BAR ref...failed. :) Timing/Wrong hoses/Manifold too new to ref/bad plugs (Gump)

passed with 2 1/4 carsound cat.. shoot the only reason I failed was due to my car being obd-2.. and my motor being obd-1 wiring =P but numbers were super LOW
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Default Re: BAR ref...failed. :) Timing/Wrong hoses/Manifold too new to ref/bad plugs (IM ALL BOB)

Spade failed smog. Dang man, good luck next time.
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Default Re: BAR ref...failed. :) Timing/Wrong hoses/Manifold too new to ref/bad plugs (Spade)

if your getting a new cat....might as well pop in a new o2 sensor...just for safe measure...but im pretty positive the cat will cure everything...
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Default Re: BAR ref...failed. :) Timing/Wrong hoses/Manifold too new to ref/bad plugs (degooser)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by degooser &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your getting a new cat....might as well pop in a new o2 sensor...just for safe measure...but im pretty positive the cat will cure everything...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have someone who might just give me theirs.
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