platinum00

under the rear seats in a 2000 civic coupe there are 3 large heavy plates. I marked were they used to be.



Does this deal with any kind or support or body roll.

platinum.

hadehatch

There was a thread about this piece in Integras.. Try searching.. I think 97+ integras had this piece but 94-96 didn't..

Its used to lock the seat in but other than that Im not sure if it does anything else..

dogfood

how much do those pieces weight, and do you know if the hatches have them?

Deemeetree

I'll take a stab at it...

To support the rear passengers since IT IS a passenger vehicle. Hence, people = passengers.

If those pieces were not there, the seats would be on the floor and you'll feel like a midget back there.

I win a cookie!

platinum00

i have not weighed them, but there a decent amount.

maybe 30 lbs. all together.

anyone have any other weight reduction tips like this.

how much does the gas tank weight ? i might be getting a fuel cell ?

oh and what is the best way to get all the noise reduction stuff off the floor, HEAT GUN ?

platinum.

Deemeetree

Will this be a daily driven car or track car? If it's a track car, rip everything out you can think of that won't buckle the vehicle and call it a day.

Ricey McRicerton

I seem to remember those being for structural integrity....

Anybody wanna back me up on this?

Deemeetree

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Anybody wanna back me up on this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would think they would be since it's a vital part on where the rear passengers sit. They wouldn't make a flimy piece where passengers sit only to save on weight and costs. If you remove that piece, I'd say the rear of the vehicle will flex on turns and maybe even on acceleration.

Here:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=784426

Lots of ideas with your year vehicle/similar (EM1).

pdiggitydogg

I also want to say its for structural integrity

Ricey McRicerton

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I would think they would be since it's a vital part on where the rear passengers sit. They wouldn't make a flimy piece where passengers sit only to save on weight and costs. If you remove that piece, I'd say the rear of the vechile will flex on turns and maybe even on acceleration.

Here:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=784426

Lots of ideas with your year vehicle/similar (EM1).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly.

platinum00

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I seem to remember those being for structural integrity....

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anyone confirm this..

can i get a pillar bar to replace this or something lighter that will do the same for the car structuraly.

This is not a daily driver, and i dont plan on putting the back seats back in.
but I do alot of hard cornering and dont want to weakin the chasis.

platinum.



Modified by platinum00 at 11:36 PM 10/6/2004

screech

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oh and what is the best way to get all the noise reduction stuff off the floor, HEAT GUN ?

platinum.

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dry ice

Master23

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by platinum00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have not weighed them, but there a decent amount.

maybe 30 lbs. all together.

anyone have any other weight reduction tips like this.

how much does the gas tank weight ? i might be getting a fuel cell ?

oh and what is the best way to get all the noise reduction stuff off the floor, HEAT GUN ?

platinum.

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To remove the noise reduction material on the floor I think your suppose to use dry ice. This will freeze the material and then you can just hammer it with a chisel.

Deemeetree

Dry ice and a chisel to remove the tar.

As far as the pillar bar, those are 2 COMPLETELY different locations of the vehicle and COMPLETELY different stress points.

That piece right there, I can bet, stiffens the chassis under acceleration and cornering.

Think about it. All the rear momentum under acceleration places stress near the center to rear of the vehicle. Generally, in that area right there. If there was no structural integrity there, the floor would buckle in half under a hard launch and the chassis would drop like a "U".

The pillar bar (if the one I'm thinking about is correct) goes from one side of the vehicle to the other side. This is for body roll and chassis flex from cornering. This pillar, probably, has NOTHING to do with rear momentum and chassis rigity under acceleration or braking.

I'm not an Engineer (was into Mechanical Engineering). Just thinking about it in my head and picturing everything happening slowly.

Go here:

https://honda-tech.com/zeroforum?id=19

For chassis rigity questions and concearns (especially this one).

platinum00

thanks for the help,

stupid ?, but where do i get dry ice.

keep the comments coming.

platinum.


Modified by platinum00 at 11:55 PM 10/6/2004

Deemeetree

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by platinum00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the help,

stupid ?, but where do i get dry ice.

keep the comments coming.

platinum.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Local grocery store should carry it. Cheap too. Break it to chunks, distribute among tar. Oce you see the tar start to crack, chisel away.

blaster834

I wouldnt remove it

Ivan

They are there in case you were to get t-boned. Its for safety, thats why they added them later. I know on some earlier cars like before 96 didn't have them.

HXvtec

i have the same thing in my car but i didnt take it out. try taking all the sound deadener from under the carpet and in your truck. its a good 20lbs but it might be a lot of work.

civtegra_hybrid

if you want some whight reed. they why don't get get some fiber glass doors, and lexon windows all around and a one pice front end, don't start cutting **** you don't know will afect the car or not, if you do it would be too late if anything would happan and there goes your car, what' Im trying to say is Dont find out the hard way. it's not worth it, (with your car) do it the right way

NXSpoon

Those pieces are there for structural integrity, like people have previously posted. If the car is anywhere near a daily driver, leave them in. Otherwise, the choice is yours.

Is weight that big a factor when it comes to the integrity of your car??

sinister6

personaly i wont stripe away those things with safty feature..
some ppl remove side beams and bumper support.. i would never do that

jay.dee.em1

if your gonna take it out i would at least get some sort of roll cage or have some lighter supports welded in

platinum00

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ivan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are there in case you were to get t-boned. Its for safety, thats why they added them later. I know on some earlier cars like before 96 didn't have them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if there not on the 92-95 models i would assume there for saftey and not body flex or roll.

im not worried about saftey, The car is rarley drivin on the street, and a cage might be in the works later anyway.

platinum.

Deemeetree

It's up to you man. There's plenty of other ways to reduce weight.

I rather do it this way:

Since I'm not going to remove this 20 lb. chunk of metal, I'm going to add 10 more horsepower with engine modifications. See where I'm going?