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B20b w/ b16 tranny vs B20b w/ gsr tranny.

 
Old 07-27-2004, 11:35 PM
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Old 07-28-2004, 12:24 AM
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the o2 sensor is holding u back more than u could imagine. i was running 14.1's with a bad o2 sensor. and when i changed out the O2 sensor without any other mods to the car i ran a 13.7
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlyfestyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the o2 sensor is holding u back more than u could imagine. i was running 14.1's with a bad o2 sensor. and when i changed out the O2 sensor without any other mods to the car i ran a 13.7</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the input...that's what i thought . I m trying to change the sensor asap
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlyfestyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the o2 sensor is holding u back more than u could imagine. i was running 14.1's with a bad o2 sensor. and when i changed out the O2 sensor without any other mods to the car i ran a 13.7</TD></TR></TABLE>

under WOT the ecu is in open loop hense ignoring the o2 sensor(s).

p75.. is that a LS ecu? what is it from?
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p75 is an ls ecu
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thats probably why, too lean on the top end. fuel for a 1.8l is not enough to feed a 2.0. either get it chipped w/ b20 maps or find a obd1 crv ecu which I dont think they ever made.

find out what management your friend is running, better yet, swap ecu's and race again
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx_88_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats probably why, too lean on the top end. fuel for a 1.8l is not enough to feed a 2.0. either get it chipped w/ b20 maps or find a obd1 crv ecu which I dont think they ever made.

find out what management your friend is running, better yet, swap ecu's and race again </TD></TR></TABLE>

I m thinking that he is runinng obd2 b/c i saw one plug style distributor if i remember correctly. Swapping ecu is not an option without excess work .

I m running way too lean top end, my car will not accelerate as it does from start to 4.5k. I want to think that the o2 sensor it cause it. I m going to try to fix the o2 sensor problem and have at it again. If that does work, im going to chip the bitch.

Do you guys agree that b20/b16 tranny with beat a b20/ gsr tranny though? Short gear will cause the car to accelerater fast. I swap the ls 5th gear to drive on highway only


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man..im at work and i can't do anything productive rather than go on h-t... i am still in dissappointment .

BTW there is no obd1 ecu for the b20. Even the obd2 manual ecu is hard to come by
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try the o2 since they are easier then a chipped ecu. otherwise you might have to chip your ecu w/ b20 maps, which isnt too difficult to do.

uberdata is your friend.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx_88_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
uberdata is your friend.</TD></TR></TABLE>

deffinatly tuning makes a world or difference. I just think hondata or uberdata is a little excessive for my setup now

bump of more thoughts
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Serious??? Give me the 411 man
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Dam...i forgot to mention, if i m running 87 octane gas...i m getting a lot of pinging from the motor. I recently switch to 91 and it lessen damatically. I m thinking i m runing too lean
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProJectCvic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Serious??? Give me the 411 man </TD></TR></TABLE>

The software is free. You have to socket your ECU. It is a good choice, you need someone to tune (or you tune it) it.

http://www.ecimulti.org/uberdata/
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thanks for the quick reply...i m going to fix the sensor problem and have at it again. Hopefully, it is to my advantage
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx_88_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">under WOT the ecu is in open loop hense ignoring the o2 sensor(s).
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Edit, you use the DX harness, cause that is a heater code. Most of the time it is the wiring, not the sensor.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogixxer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Edit, you use the DX harness, cause that is a heater code. Most of the time it is the wiring, not the sensor. </TD></TR></TABLE>

are you referring to me? i used the dx harness.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProJectCvic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you referring to me?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, Check the wiring also.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogixxer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes, Check the wiring also.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ya, definately..you always give good advice. Code 41 is a malfunction in the heating system in the o2 sensor. I want to correct that before i buy another 02 sensor.

btw..who is that lady in your avatar? That's been in my mind for a while now
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProJectCvic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya, definately..you always give good advice. Code 41 is a malfunction in the heating system in the o2 sensor. I want to correct that before i buy another 02 sensor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The heater wire is the white wire (harness side), it turns to a shielded wire (to gray wire color and a thicker wire).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProJectCvic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw..who is that lady in your avatar? That's been in my mind for a while now</TD></TR></TABLE>

My GF

That is Susan Ward. She was in Shallow Hal (she played jill) and The In Crowd (she played brittary).

This is the full pic:


other one: (***I do not know if it is work safe or not, It should be, BUT CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK***)
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogixxer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The heater wire is the white wire (harness side), it turns to a shielded wire (to gray wire color and a thicker wire).

My GF

That is Susan Ward. She was in Shallow Hal (she played jill) and The In Crowd (she played brittary).

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other one: (***I do not know if it is work safe or not, It should be, BUT CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK***)
http://www.we-todd-did-racing....DE%3D </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hahahah lol...she looks familar. She is peerrrttee
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