ForceFed Coupe

Whats the usual et for a stock b20 non vtec?

SpyderZEX

Put your flame suit on. It really depends on alot of factors. For example, what kind of car are you putting it in? Also, kinds of mods, etc....

BauleyCivic

well CRV's probably run 17's or 18's...so about there

ForceFed Coupe

well im droppin it into my 95 coupe. im guttin the rear section out too.

BauleyCivic

transmission?

ForceFed Coupe

gsr trans

BauleyCivic

high 14's is my guess...jdmdxturd runs 14's with a B18B coupe with B16 trans

ForceFed Coupe

well i hope i can do a little better than that. im gettin cam gears, afc, headers, i already have a cai. also b20 is a 2.0 i think ill have a little more torque than a b18b. that will help put some more power to the ground.

NOTENOUGHBOOST

So are you just going to run the whole b20 motor, or are you goingto change the head?

92SiHatchie

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dam i have a b20 with a gsr tranny,full interior,street tires.i hope i can get into that range.does he have a full interior/street tires?

Henry HA

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jp300zxtt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i hope i can do a little better than that. im gettin cam gears, afc, headers, i already have a cai. also b20 is a 2.0 i think ill have a little more torque than a b18b. that will help put some more power to the ground. </TD></TR></TABLE>


no its not B20 is not 2.0 liter, its 1.8 liter

i was planning to get a b20 but now i want a b18b

ForceFed Coupe

the b20b is a 2.0L

ForceFed Coupe

im just running the b20 no vtec. maybe turbo by next spring

JDMs1eeper

I had a 1993 DX coupe, ran 14.4 @ 96 on street tires with shortram intake, 4-1 header, 2.5 testpipe, 2.5 N1 catback, LS' 5-speed manual cams, GSR tranny. GREAT motor and does not compair to the B18b LS motor. It is a very underrated motor. To do teh swap (correctly) you have to put the LS stuff on it to get it (correct). Mine made 153whp. Maybe a factory freek? maybe not. Good luck man if you get it you will love it

EDIT: 97' B20b

hybrid93SIvic

damn a 14.4 with a b20...nice times...i say that is a freak motor....a lot of people say i have a freak motor...i ran a 14.8 with a b16 in my 93 dx coupe with just a short ram intake an cat back exhaust

ForceFed Coupe

sounds pretty good. i hope my coupe can do that or better what do u mean LS' 5-speed manual cams. ill have to get my self new headers and a test pipe. what other ls stuff did u use

ForceFed Coupe

hey what flywheel did u use and what clutch
i think im goin exedy wit a jdm b16 flywheel.

JDMs1eeper

before anyone says it.. don't start this thread into "Sleeves are weak" thread.

Several people with B20tecs have had some problems with sleeve issues, why? here is my guess :

they are running 12.5-13.5:1 compression
Revving to 9,000+ rpms
Running 15-20psi of boost
Still trying to "make due" with 93 octain (boosted or high comp.)
lack of tunning.


yeah, sleeves may be a little weaker. but with tunning I dont see why the potentual isnt there.

Another thing why i think this happens...

Why are you going to run a stock sleeved block anyways revving to 9k+ with 13:1 compression with no tunning?
If you want a race motor.. I know several builders that have 84.5-85mm sleeved bottomends... Pushing the lemits will do wonders on any sleeve.
(I've heard several stories and the owner had no clue why they cracked, both LS and CRV)

Sorry. I know this thread was gonna end up saying something about it so i had to be teh first to post my opinion and what i think.

(I'm not Honda so I'm not saying that what i have said is the "correct" thing, but it is deffinaly one of the main causes and issues I've read and seen)

What i think:
b18b
b20b
B20z

I like them all

JDMs1eeper

B20b's came with weak cams and I've seen dyno charts with almost a 10whp difference with the B18b 5-speed cams in it (same as the B20z cams) If you have a B20Z already then dont worry about the cams. they are the same as the LS 5speed cams


Other LS stuff:
LS Intake Manifold (b18b
LS Throttlebody (b18b)
LS Throttle Cable (b18b)
LS flywheel (b18b)
LS 5speed Cam's (b18b)
LS 5speed ECU (b18b)
err... I think somthign else to?...

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Henry HA

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he said STOCK b20

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it was a joke

JDMs1eeper

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he said STOCK b20 </TD></TR></TABLE>

ohhhhhhhhh Stock.. hehe... Whats stock

ForceFed Coupe

well i already have the ls intake manifold, and im using the b20 throttle body. ill probably use the b18b throttle cable. im using a jdm b16 flywheel. and i like what u did wit the cams so i think i might do that. and i also have the b18b computer.