after nine30

ok people i use to drive a 97 ek hatch with a jdm type r on apr11th i was involved in a car accident was able to save the engine have to replace the head.. now im about to buy a 99 ek hatch and plan on putting the jdm k20a alot of people tell me to just rebuild the b18 whats the price range to build it from top to bottom? and also am i just better of by swaping a k20a

elektronsi

its pretty much personal preference, you can get a complete JDM k20a for about $5500 i believe from hmotorsonline, or you could take that money and get a decent turbo set up for your b18c5, the k20a IMO is a better platform for turbo, but it also cots a [shiat] load more, like i said its all personal preference

after nine30

the k20comes with lsd 6speed??

H22Ej1

if you buy the jdm one, others come with 5speeds like from the ep3 and such (but those are crap so y would you want that?)

94c1v1cex

k20 is just a bling factor these days... b series ftw

elektronsi

the k20 vs. the b series could be debated just as much as b18c vs b16, d series vs. b series etc... and could go on at infitinitum, its all about preference

Mikej425

k swap takes the most modification and work as far as swaps go and i dont know much about them, but i've heard k series tranny's suck but i have no idea about the validity so dont go just by that. but imo it'd be way more worth it to rebuild the b18

skeletonskater

truly its your opinion, its like this, if you have the money for a k20a go for it, but in another case you could just get the b18c w/the 5 lsd tranny and fully built it...a k20a runs around 4-5000 and the type r 2-3000...so w/the extra cash buy some rods,cranks, headers,intake, or just turbo the car...even tho is more rare to see a ek w/a k20a swap i think a b18c has more options in performance parts and easier to find...

freshdaily

B18C FTW! Plus parts are cheaper and like they said you can buy more performance parts with the extra money!

94_civic_coupe

you would come out cheaper with the b18c but if money is not a factor then i say do the k20a swap

RyanA

Stock K series will run pretty good but cost a lot. Stock Type R swap will run fairly well and cost about 1/3-1/2 of what a completed K swap will cost in the end. You can do the K swap, leave it stock and drive it for a very long time or, for the same money, you could build the heck out of the ITR swap. Reliability would be less but you'd have a pretty healthy car with money left in your pocket. There's a lot of "little stuff" involved when doing a K swap that makes it add up pretty quick.

They are both good swaps. Stock to stock, the K series will dominate, dollar to dollar, the B series wins.

Ryan

BryanM.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.They are both good swaps. Stock to stock, the K series will dominate, dollar to dollar, the B series wins.

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That about sums it up.

after nine30

i saw on youtube a stock k20a run 13.1 with only a apex w.s. and a intake is it possible i took my b18c an i ran high 13s and i had the same exhaust. headers intake

Kurly

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are both good swaps. Stock to stock, the K series will dominate, dollar to dollar, the B series wins.</TD></TR></TABLE>

FTW.

ek guey

[freak] it go h22
my homiez lude (i/h/e) takes out rsx's like nothing

RyanA

A K in an RSX and a K in a Civic is like comparing apples to oranges though. The Civic is a good amount lighter than an RSX.

All the swaps mentioned are good swaps; they all have their positives and negatives. Get what you can afford and you'll be happy.

after nine30

well the shop that i go to told me that if i send them my b18c they would discount on the k20a. now the engine has a broken cam gear and timing belt from what i was ale to see.. i really dont know how much money they will discount from it but lets just say its 2500$-3000$ a k20a costs what 5500$?? so now my question is is it worth to pay the rest for the k20 or use ( i forgot to add im getting a personal injury check from my accident so we might be looking at 5000-6000$ check for me) that money to rebuild the b18c... catch my drift?

ek guey

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i was also talking about a h22 in a heavy *** bb6, imagine tat power in a way lighter hatch????

idk dude its ur whip jus thought u would have more fun wit a 2.2

slowwegg

Hhaha shoot I wished I could go K but yea B would leave a big chunk of cash left for u but K could be more reliable

enigma's95

k20 is just a bling factor these days... b series ftw noicely said!

Seminole

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before you get too jumpy make sure it's a k20a2. you don't want the a3. i owned a a3, not that' great. same hp as b16 more tq. the k20a2 is the high reving loud vtec we're all used to with the b series. and has more hp and tq if i remember correctly. the k20a3 is better for turbo apps while the a2 is better for n/a from what i understand.

hmotorsonline.com

Rainy City

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94c1v1cex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">k20 is just a bling factor these days... b series ftw</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol? uh, ok. the [freak]?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Seminole &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">before you get too jumpy make sure it's a k20a2. you don't want the a3. i owned a a3, not that' great. same hp as b16 more tq. the k20a2 is the high reving loud vtec we're all used to with the b series. and has more hp and tq if i remember correctly. the k20a3 is better for turbo apps while the a2 is better for n/a from what i understand.

hmotorsonline.com
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They're both good for turbo aps. they're both [freak]ing 2.0 motors but the one that has the actual lift on the exhaust valve is better for N/A why wouldn't it be better for boost? Tell me how the 200hp motor which has identical block but better head be rated not as good for boost as one that makes 160hp and has a more restrictive head. And if you had the 160hp motor I bet you had the 5 speed too.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek guey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">[freak] it go h22
my homiez lude (i/h/e) takes out rsx's like nothing</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn your homie is off the hook yo.

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i was also talking about a h22 in a heavy *** bb6, imagine tat power in a way lighter hatch????

idk dude its ur whip jus thought u would have more fun wit a 2.2</TD></TR></TABLE>

k20 6spd 200hp vs h22 5spd.

dc-k20 : eg-h22


DC wins. Pulls on him from 1st on out.

Seminole

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I don't know it's just what I head and that was back in 04 when I had it. I didn't really look into everything and it's just what I was told by a lot of people. The compression ratios were better for boost on the a3. You certainly love to bash people don't you? I was just stating make sure it's the a2 and not the a3. The a3's aren't worth much.