Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-17-2009, 03:37 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
xxdevilzeroxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SpecialK Socal
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default b18C swap into EK question ASAP

noob. but if i get a set of hasport mounts. on my B18c do i need to replace the rear mount to an SI T bracket? or can i use the B18C one ? also can i use the JDM haness for my swap and modify it? or do i have to get usdm harness,
Old 08-17-2009, 03:41 PM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
B18CivicEJ8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA
Posts: 589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by xxdevilzeroxx
noob. but if i get a set of hasport mounts. on my B18c do i need to replace the rear mount to an SI T bracket? or can i use the B18C one ?
Nope. You still have to use the Si T bracket.

And no, you can't use the JDM harness at all. It is a 2 piece type of connector that will not work in your Civic because your Civic uses a 1 piece style of design. You'll have to use your stock harness and add/extend wires.
Old 08-17-2009, 03:46 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
xxdevilzeroxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SpecialK Socal
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by B18CivicEJ8
Nope. You still have to use the Si T bracket.

And no, you can't use the JDM harness at all. It is a 2 piece type of connector that will not work in your Civic because your Civic uses a 1 piece style of design. You'll have to use your stock harness and add/extend wires.
hmm so for say..TPS i can use my stock harness and just extend it and plug it in the B18 TPS? i have a D16Y8 harness do i need an Si harness?
Old 08-17-2009, 03:47 PM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
 
B18CivicEJ8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA
Posts: 589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by xxdevilzeroxx
hmm so for say..TPS i can use my stock harness and just extend it and plug it in the B18 TPS?
Yes. No, you don't need an Si harness. Your harness already has VTEC and knock. You'll just need to add wires for IAB.
Old 08-17-2009, 03:54 PM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
xxdevilzeroxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SpecialK Socal
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

if i get an ITR intake mani do i still have to wired up the IAB?
Old 08-17-2009, 04:53 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Anon51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 714
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

ITR Manifold doesn't bolt up to the GSR head. you'd have to get a skunk2 mani for the gsr. and then you won't have to worry about IAB's
Old 08-17-2009, 04:53 PM
  #7  
Seagull Management
 
94EG8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Miramichi, NB, Canada
Posts: 15,150
Likes: 0
Received 24 Likes on 22 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by xxdevilzeroxx
if i get an ITR intake mani do i still have to wired up the IAB?
No.
Old 08-18-2009, 12:06 AM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
xxdevilzeroxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SpecialK Socal
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by Anon51
ITR Manifold doesn't bolt up to the GSR head. you'd have to get a skunk2 mani for the gsr. and then you won't have to worry about IAB's
haha owned! thats what i meant the S2 intake mani. sorry im a D series guy. this is my first B. so what happens to the IAB after the S2 mani is installed? do i still have to leave it wired up?
Old 08-18-2009, 12:33 AM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
 
raidacaipo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: CA
Posts: 3,591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by xxdevilzeroxx
haha owned! thats what i meant the S2 intake mani. sorry im a D series guy. this is my first B. so what happens to the IAB after the S2 mani is installed? do i still have to leave it wired up?
nothing happens to the Iab plug... if your using a p72(gsr) or p13(h22) ecu then it will look for an IAB sensor... however, you can unplug this and it will not affect performance as much and it wont give you a check engine light..

You have 8 valves total in the gsr intake manifold. When your IAB are wired up, 4 valves are automatically closed off when you start the car (kinda like how your throttle body opens andn closes when you step on the gas pedal). However when you turn off the car, they all remain open (all 8 valves). As soon as you hit around 6,100rpms or so, the 4 valves open up and allows more air flow so you get more power.. the function of the IAB is to create low end torque for daily driving..
Old 08-18-2009, 01:02 AM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
xxdevilzeroxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SpecialK Socal
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by raidacaipo
nothing happens to the Iab plug... if your using a p72(gsr) or p13(h22) ecu then it will look for an IAB sensor... however, you can unplug this and it will not affect performance as much and it wont give you a check engine light..

You have 8 valves total in the gsr intake manifold. When your IAB are wired up, 4 valves are automatically closed off when you start the car (kinda like how your throttle body opens andn closes when you step on the gas pedal). However when you turn off the car, they all remain open (all 8 valves). As soon as you hit around 6,100rpms or so, the 4 valves open up and allows more air flow so you get more power.. the function of the IAB is to create low end torque for daily driving..

sounds fun to wire up/.. its a 94 spec ob1 B18C. got any tips on how to wire it up?? anyone wanna buy it? lol seems easyer to get a skunk mani..is it a JDM thing only? or USDM has it too?
Old 08-18-2009, 01:12 AM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
-__-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posts: 847
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

^^yeah get the skunk2 mani. saves you the trouble of wiring the IABS and the manifold design is way better. to me the stock GSR manifold is an eyesore

other than that the swap is easy cuz u have a D16Y8 harness
Old 08-18-2009, 01:20 AM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
xxdevilzeroxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SpecialK Socal
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

thanks! so i dont have to add the IAB wires to the harness if i go Skunk..or can i just take the IAB plate and bolt it back together.? btw thanks guys for the real help. and not stupid *** comments i see all the time when ppl post!!!!!!!!!!
Old 08-18-2009, 08:36 AM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
 
raidacaipo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: CA
Posts: 3,591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by xxdevilzeroxx
thanks! so i dont have to add the IAB wires to the harness if i go Skunk..or can i just take the IAB plate and bolt it back together.? btw thanks guys for the real help. and not stupid *** comments i see all the time when ppl post!!!!!!!!!!
its not that hard to wire up.. just look at the diagram and stick a wire into the ecu pin on back and bring it straight up into your iab sensor.. or you can find a wire that your not using and repin it to the iab: http://www.phearable.net/tech/wiring/obd2pinremoval.jpg

Heres another link where the iab is yellow #26: http://www.phearable.net/tech/wiring/wiring.96-98_2.jpg

*You dont even have to add IAB wires period if you dont want on the gsr manifold. If anything all 8 valves will automatically stay open thus you get a little bit more high end power but less torque.. (trust me I used to have a jdm gsr and I really couldnt tell a difference whether it was wired up or not.. or maybe I do? well according to my "butt dyno")

If you wanna see if your iab works, simply wire up an iab wire from the iab sensor to your ecu. Then have your friend start the car. Look on the right side of your manifold. You will see a gold looking Bell shaped piece that connects to your vacuum lines.. it will slowly move meaning you wired it up correctly. What it is doing is its closing the 4 valves like in this diagram: http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1624/iabtb9.jpg

I also switched over to a skunk2 pro series intake manifold and the high end power was there.. so I thought it was worth it..
Heres a good link if you want to change your gsr manifold to a skunk2 :http://technet.ff-squad.com/how-to/sk2im/
Old 08-19-2009, 03:04 AM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
xxdevilzeroxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SpecialK Socal
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

thanks alot man!!!!
Old 08-19-2009, 10:25 AM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
xxdevilzeroxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SpecialK Socal
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

by the way can i use my stock EX trans bracket for the B18? or do i also have to use the SI one? because i have an EX 99 motor. i know i need the T bracket. im using hasport mounts. what other bracket do i need? or can i use my stock brackts

Last edited by xxdevilzeroxx; 08-19-2009 at 10:31 AM.
Old 08-19-2009, 10:30 AM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
 
raidacaipo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: CA
Posts: 3,591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by xxdevilzeroxx
by the way can i use my stock EX trans bracket for the B18? or do i also have to use the SI one?
well you can use the stock gsr bracket thats on your tranny already with the stock ex motor mounts
Old 08-19-2009, 10:41 AM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
xxdevilzeroxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SpecialK Socal
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

damn the GSR didnt come with any of those brackets. i cant use any of the SOHC brackets?
Old 08-19-2009, 10:45 AM
  #18  
Honda-Tech Member
 
B18CivicEJ8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA
Posts: 589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by xxdevilzeroxx
damn the GSR didnt come with any of those brackets. i cant use any of the SOHC brackets?
No. You have an EK, you have to use a rear T bracket from a 99-00 Si. There is no way around it. A SOHC trans is different than a B series trans.

Proof:

http://kosmo.homedns.org/trey/6gen/
Old 08-19-2009, 10:45 AM
  #19  
H-T Premium Sponsor
 
Hasport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ, US
Posts: 724
Likes: 0
Received 72 Likes on 58 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by xxdevilzeroxx
damn the GSR didnt come with any of those brackets. i cant use any of the SOHC brackets?
you can use the SOHC 5spd transmission bracket

you will need a 99-00 SI block bracket on the timing belt side
Old 08-19-2009, 10:48 AM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
 
raidacaipo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: CA
Posts: 3,591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by B18CivicEJ8
No. You have an EK, you have to use a rear T bracket from a 99-00 Si. There is no way around it. A SOHC trans is different than a B series trans.

Proof:

http://kosmo.homedns.org/trey/6gen/
your confusing the original poster.. hes asking if he can use the gsr or stock ex transmission side brackets for his motor mounts, not the rear.. I already answered that for him..
Old 08-19-2009, 10:48 AM
  #21  
Honda-Tech Member
 
raidacaipo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: CA
Posts: 3,591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by Hasport
you can use the SOHC 5spd transmission bracket
x2
Old 08-19-2009, 10:50 AM
  #22  
Honda-Tech Member
 
B18CivicEJ8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA
Posts: 589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

Originally Posted by raidacaipo
your confusing the original poster.. hes asking if he can use the gsr or stock ex transmission side brackets for his motor mounts, not the rear.. I already answered that for him..
My bad. I mis-read what he was asking. You are right...
Old 08-19-2009, 11:41 AM
  #23  
Honda-Tech Member
 
-__-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posts: 847
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: b18C swap into EK question ASAP

you can use ALL of your RUBBER mounts on the B-Series motor. The only mounts you need to change are the upper driver's side mount (the one that had the 2 prongs sticking out of it.) the front transmission torque mount bracket and the rear "T" bracket. The front transmission torque mount bracket can be from any b-series hydraulic transmission.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
710dabber
Hybrid / Engine Swaps
1
01-18-2015 05:06 AM
RedSix
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
1
04-25-2010 07:39 PM
jdmstyleEJ6
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
15
02-04-2010 09:40 PM
sk8board{Pete}
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
25
10-02-2007 10:06 PM
IHeartRicers
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
11
02-03-2006 08:30 AM



Quick Reply: b18C swap into EK question ASAP



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:04 PM.